CaryHawk
Ronnie
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Sunday, October 13, 2019, 20:13 (2510 days ago)
Would prefer it in .45 Colt or at least a convertible
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Better still in 10mm
Hmm...
ChrisG
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Sunday, October 13, 2019, 21:53 (2509 days ago) @ Ronnie
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I have been kicking around the idea
Amede
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 07:23 (2509 days ago) @ Ronnie
of a trail gun in exactly that configuration(smaller caliber of course), but the overall would be a small light carry trail gun more for carry concealed than running around the woods.
Remember the larger the caliber the lighter the gun
Blake
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 09:36 (2509 days ago) @ Amede
Comparing same gun of course.
Yea, I was thinking maybe a 9mm in a TG
Amede
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 10:00 (2509 days ago) @ Blake
with everything lightened up like a backpacker
Could a 45 colt cylinder be made for this ?
Derek
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 10:27 (2509 days ago) @ Ronnie
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Already is in 45 Colt
Derek
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 10:45 (2509 days ago) @ Derek
That is about the ugliest gun Ruger has ever
james shapiro
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 13:15 (2509 days ago) @ Ronnie
made. Gary makes some similar to that but at least they have a bit of class. That one is just butt ugly. And why in the world name something after Wily Clapp? What has he ever done with a single action revolver? That is just copying S&W and their Wily Clapp special. Silly.
Fisrts it isn't named after Wiley,
Sid R
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 13:56 (2509 days ago) @ james shapiro
it was named after a quote he made. Second this was made for us working class folk who can hardly pay attention. It is a working gun, aka Colt Government/Commander only in a single action. If I could get a black chromex beauty that Gary makes I would. I settle for the practical matt finish. Better for hunting anyway. It's not for everyone but it is practical for those of us very proficient with a single action and don't mind some minor field abuse and wear.
Keep up the good work Gary and some day I'll have me a 44/40 trail gun.
Maybe so, but it is still butt ugly. And I bet more folks
James shapiro
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 14:15 (2509 days ago) @ Sid R
know who wily Coyote is than Wiley Clapp. Why not name a gun after someone we all admire like John Taffin. Wiley Clapp sounds like a disease. And Gary's guns are working guns too. I have 3 of them. Just because they have class and character doesn't mean they aren't working guns. Look at that little 10" 41 GNR TC that Gary has used on every critter known to man. It is a working gun but still looks good. A gun doesn't have to be butt ugly to be a working gun.
Super Redhawk wins ugly in my book
steve todd
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 14:35 (2509 days ago) @ james shapiro
Unless it has a short barrel that doesn’t step down.
PUT A SCOPE ON A 9-1/2" SUPER UGLY DUCKLING
JT
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Tuesday, October 15, 2019, 14:21 (2508 days ago) @ steve todd
AND ITS PERFORMANCE TURNS IT INTO A GRACEFUL SWAN.
when the Super Redhawk first came out I thought it was like
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, October 15, 2019, 15:26 (2508 days ago) @ JT
putting lipstick and a garter belt on a pig. But after playing with a few of them and doing a little custom work on a couple I began to like the pig better.
I guess I should jump in here before it gets to
Gary Reeder
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Monday, October 14, 2019, 17:29 (2509 days ago) @ Ronnie
name calling and such. I will have to side with both of the folks measuring peckers. Ruger didn't build this as one of their own series. The gun was designed by Wiley Clapp and Ruger built it for Talo, a gun distributor, just like Lipseys and Davidsons are distributors. For instance, if you wanted Ruger to build a very special gun to your specs, as long as it was safe and didn't infringe on someone else's patents, they would do so, as long as you order at least 500 or 1000 guns and come up with the money up front. So before you say Ruger is building ugly guns, put the blame on the distributor Talo.
Now here comes the chicken shit way of agreeing with both so no more fights get started. I agree the gun is ugly, in fact very ugly. If Clapp designed it that is one strike against him. On the other side of the coin, it probably won't be the working man's carry gun as it is a special one of 500 or one of however many they are building, so my guess here is it will be just as expensive as a standard Blackhawk, maybe more.
You guys that are older than dirt will remember very special revolvers built by Colt and by S&W that were much like these, being a dull satin finish and ugly as sin. Each of these series flopped. The S&W was the Nightguard and the Colt was the Peacekeeper.Both had the ugly sandblasted finish and the public said "no thanks".
Another thing I disagreed with (and my opinion and $11.25 will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks) is the huge front sight. There will be no precision shooting with that big dead frog on the front of the barrel.
So I have different feelings about this new gun. I have to congratulate Ruger for letting companies design their own handguns and rifles (I think Ruger is building about 25 different versions of the 10-22, designed and paid for by various distributors). I would be even stranger than I am normally if I agreed with all new series, but I have dual feelings about this gun. At first I didn't like the new Wrangler revolver at all, but it began to grow on me. This one will probably do the same.
UGLY YES BUT WOULD MAKE A GOOD CARRY GUN IN
JT
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Tuesday, October 15, 2019, 14:17 (2508 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
ROUGH STUFF/ROUGH WEATHER IF AND ONLY IF IT HAD A GRIP I COULD HOLD ONTO. GARY'S DESIGN GRIP WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO ME.
wait a minute John! Which gripframe? The
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, October 15, 2019, 15:42 (2508 days ago) @ JT
one on that "ugly" gun is also one of ours. We had it on our Tombstone Classic at the big Winter Range cowboy shoot in Phoenix. Ruger had a booth a few down from us but kept coming up and playing with the Tombstone Classic with the birdshead gripframe and the Doc Holliday with the rounded gripframe. At the end of the weekend they asked us if they could take a couple of our guns back with them. They took 2 of our Tombstone Classics and about a month later they sent them back thanking us and saying they would be building a birdshead gripframe using our Tombstone as a pattern.
They also used our Long Rider which became their Bisley Vaquero, and they used our Alaskan Survivor on the Super Redhawk and actually kept the Alaskan name. They used our Redhawk based Alaskan Survivor as the basis of their recently released snubbie Redhawk. And our Night Hawk was the pattern for their 4" Redhawk of a few years back. And my guys mentioned several others that were borrowed from us by other companies. But I consider it a compliment when a large well respected company like Ruger uses one of our ideas. The Ruger folks are good folks.
So I guess now I have to ask, which gripframe of ours?
Our magnum gripframe is doing well for those that have been
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, October 15, 2019, 17:28 (2508 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
getting the middle knuckle bashed on recoil, and the Magnum gave them 3/8" of space between the gripframe and the back of the trigger guard. Then the guys who didn't like their little finger hanging off needed something, so we came up with the Magnum XL which gave them a full inch longer gripframe and the problem was solved. So there are a lot of choices these days.
and that is my commercial for the day
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, October 15, 2019, 17:51 (2508 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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