Solid Copper vs Cast
Tom
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 09:14 (2488 days ago)
I'm always mentally toying with something, any thoughts on solid copper, or brass bullets vs hard cast. Speaking specifically of handgun ammo.
Kelye Schlepp of Belt Mountain has his great
Gary Reeder
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 09:52 (2488 days ago) @ Tom
Punch bullets out. I use them for dangerous game as they don't expand at all. The flat or tapered nose helps to break down bones on big animals.
I will give up hunting before I will use a Barnes bullet. A pointed solid will not expand unless it hits a large bone. Every year we get guys talking about hitting deer and elk and losing them due to the Barnes solids. The Game & Fish folks that promote that are all politically motivated. The owners of Barnes bullets are the ones that got all this crap started. There is zero evidence that lead bullets have caused any condors to die. It is all BS.
Doesn't Grizzly Ammo
Tom
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 10:01 (2488 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
now handle the Punch bullets/loads?
they may but it still Kelye's design
Gary Reeder
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 10:07 (2488 days ago) @ Tom
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I've used a punch bullet in a .357 maxi
Sid R
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 13:16 (2488 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
with great results.
Punch
Rex
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 15:03 (2488 days ago) @ Sid R
According to the Internet, Grizzly is using Kelye's bullet
All I see on the
Tom
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 15:58 (2487 days ago) @ Rex
Belt Mountain website is base pins and latches, no mention of bullets that I see.
I imagine Kelye is so busy cranking out his
Gary Reeder
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 16:38 (2487 days ago) @ Tom
great base pins, that every large caliber gun needs, that he has let Grizzly Ammo sell his Punch bullets.
Kelye munching down at the special recognition dinner for John Taffin. Irv Coutts lady to the right.
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Yep, that's Sandy.
IC
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 17:55 (2487 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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Tom
james
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 23:40 (2487 days ago) @ IC
Its pretty impressive list with what a handgun hunter can choose today with all the different types and maker`s of bullets... Match the bullet to the game your hunting, with accuracy and bullet placement being number one. A little research on your part will let you know what works with what game animals... Best of luck.
Yeah James, I can remember when
Tom
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Tuesday, November 05, 2019, 08:32 (2487 days ago) @ james
you went into a gun/sporting goods store and had MAYBE 2 or 3 choices in ammo for any particular caliber. More often than not your choices were limited to .30-06, .30-.30 and .270. Not anymore, just looking at all the options on the shelves for just one caliber can be confusing, for both rifle and handgun. Its about like a kid in a candy store
for me.
Punch Bullets
Kelye
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 17:59 (2487 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
Mike Rintoul is now making and selling the Punch Bullets, he has a bunch of kids to pull the swaging handle! I have a bunch that I made for personal use if anyone wants a sample. Kelye
Bullets
Alcorn
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 16:52 (2487 days ago) @ Tom
Hard cast, Punch, or expanding. I am loading for 33 calibers. This is a tough decision! A lot depends on the caliber and the game being hunted, of course expansion test and accuracy play a big part in deciding what bullet to use. My friend James from NJ killed a cape buffalo with a Punch bullet form his 50 Wyoming Express, I killed a cape buffalo out of my 416 Taylor with a Swift A-frame, I hope to kill a cape buffalo with a hard cast bullet from my 50 Alaskan next year. They will all work when tested and loaded properly. Shot placement is the most critical factor.
as much as I hate to admit it, Alcorn is right
Gary Reeder
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 17:50 (2487 days ago) @ Alcorn
choose your bullet according to the game but bullet placement is the most important thing. On my Cape Buffalo last year I had planned on using the new Hornady DGS (Dangerous Game Solid) but John Abraham, my PH, said to use the expanding bullet, the DGE (Dangerous Game Expanding) and he was right. The Buff dropped with one shot from the 450 GNR at about 55 yards. And I have Alcorn beat on dies. I am loading for almost 90 calibers.
I load for 73 Cartridges myself...
Huey
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 17:54 (2487 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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Dang. I only load 8. Way behind. . .
ChrisG
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 22:10 (2487 days ago) @ Huey
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Blake
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Tuesday, November 05, 2019, 19:12 (2486 days ago) @ Alcorn
My mike Bellm .357 max G2 10" barrel shot 1/2"
Sid R
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 17:40 (2487 days ago) @ Rex
Groups at 100 yards with 180 grain punch.
Kellye may be supplying them!
WB
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Monday, November 04, 2019, 13:51 (2488 days ago) @ Tom
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