Differences

Jim Taylor
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 07:11 (2485 days ago)

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There's not a lot of difference between the .41 .. .44 .. and .45 ... and on the working end the .41 and .44 are almost identical.

Yes, but then there is the real deal... the .511

Woody
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 07:52 (2485 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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The jump from .45 to .500 is qute noticeable ..

Jim Taylor
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 08:20 (2485 days ago) @ Woody

anymore I don't care for the recoil of the big ones .. or the hot ones like the 454 ... or sadly, even the 300 gr. .45 Colts. They hurt my hands ...

But there was a time!

AMEN TO THAT JIM!!

JT
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 10:25 (2485 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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after 2 surgeries on my right hand in the last year I

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 10:39 (2485 days ago) @ JT

would cry like a little girl if I had to shoot my 510 GNR today. At the HHC I shot my 41 GNR in the G-2 twice to check the sights and one for the buffalo and I damn near cried just from that.

simple fix......start shooting left handed my friend.

Sean Harper
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 11:31 (2485 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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yeah right. I can't even hold a coffee cup left handed

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 11:37 (2485 days ago) @ Sean Harper

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I remember when Hal Swigget had a

james
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 11:48 (2485 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

small article in the long gone North America Hunt Club that showed a similar photo except there were unexpanded rifle bullets alongside and he wrote how the rifle bullets must open up the same diameters as the handgun bullets for them to work while the handgun come in a killing size right from the box....

That was always my argument for the .44 or 45 ..

Jim Taylor
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 12:38 (2485 days ago) @ james

it starts out as big as you are trying to get that 38/357 or 9mm to expand to ...

But to be honest about it .. JT's THREE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS is really correct answer.

For those willing to learn, there is lots of information...

Huey
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 12:43 (2485 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

On some of these forums. Experience and knowledge shared with nothing asked in return to boot.

For years I have not worried about expansion

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 12:48 (2485 days ago) @ james

at all. Most of my hunting is with silhouette bullets from Hornady or Sierra. They don't expand at all. I like to go for a spinal shot which drops them like a rock. Even if I pull my shot a bit the shock to the spine normally puts them down long enough to take a second shot.
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They have enough lead exposed to make them legal and not an FMJ.

The silhouette bullets are not good for small game like whitetail deer and such. For them I favor the Sierra JHC. They do the job with medium expansion.
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For dangerous game I like the Hornady DGS and DGX bullets.
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I used to use a lot of hard cast gas check bullets but after failures to put even small game like deer down immediately, I have gone back to the bullets that have proven themselves for me like the Sierra jacketed hollow cavity (JHC) and the silhouette bullets. And like John says the absolute main thing is shot placement. As far as my choice in bullets I am not saying nor even suggesting you do the same thing. This is just what works for me.

Saw Gary take a firm handshake 2 weeks ago!

Larryh
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 18:00 (2484 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Didn’t scream like a girl but he did mutter a bad word!

at least when you shook my hand you were easy on me. Some

gary reeder
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 22:54 (2484 days ago) @ Larryh

guys feel the need to do the used car salesman handshake and crush while twisting the hand. One guy shook my hand a couple of weeks ago and even noodle heard it crack 10 feet away. That one hurt all day. I guess it could be worse. We could be in San Francisco and the guys would want a kiss or at the least a pat on the butt.

Jim I need your wisdom and stick with 255 gr and

ChrisG
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 17:42 (2484 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

less. Keeps my hands happy. . .

DOH. Heed not Need.

ChrisG
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 17:43 (2484 days ago) @ ChrisG

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Honestly, I've found bullet selection more important...

Huey
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 08:03 (2485 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

Than caliber selection between 41 thru 45 calibers. Guess we all have our favorites, but I won't waste my time arguing which one is best.

Some argue light or heavy bullets, jacketed or cast, brand of bullets, etc. I just prefer to spend my time enjoying the guns.

Yes ... no argument from me ...

Jim Taylor
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 08:18 (2485 days ago) @ Huey

I like all of them. And I have used all of them on game and found that IF I put the bullet in the right place, they all work!

THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ARE

JT
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 10:25 (2485 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

1( BULLET PLACEMENT; 2) BULLET PLACEMENT; and 3) BULLET PLACEMENT.

current internet wisdom is the meplat does the work and the

Lynn
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 08:15 (2485 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

weight pushes. This is with cast not JHP. I do think that at .45 and certainly up from there are big differences. My sons .500 GNR just makes the others look piddlely. Thanxs for the pixs.

I have them all like y'all,

Sid R
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 08:46 (2485 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I like shooting them all. But I do have a favorite.

Some folks just can separate "Favorite" from "Best"

Huey
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 08:48 (2485 days ago) @ Sid R

And that annoys me occasionally. It shouldn't, but I sometimes let it.

Alright Huey I'll bite.

Sid R
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 13:33 (2485 days ago) @ Huey

the .41 is the best! LOL

LOL, I've seen guys argue for decades 44 Mag vs 45 Colt

Huey
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 14:17 (2485 days ago) @ Sid R

And I doubt any animal could tell much difference all components being equal. I've just never had the time to waste on that petty bs.

I really enjoy all the different posts. Jim really likes the 41 Magnum, Gary the 41 GNR, JT the 44 Special and so on.

WB and I are the crazy ones of the bunch. But, really get a kick out of Scottys experiments.

I'm just a lost cause born 100 years too late. Building most of my customs in hyphenated semi obsolete cartridges that most consider useless.

Find the diversity quite interesting on the forum.

Yes sir, diversity is awesome.

Sid R
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Thursday, November 07, 2019, 20:00 (2484 days ago) @ Huey

I read, listen, experiment and learn. I love the hyphenated all so but they are all lever actions. The .357 Maxi is no slouch either. But my penetration/speed tests among the most popular calibers the .41 magnum is king with slightly above average weight bullets across the board with a wide meplat.

Gary's 41 GNR is the cats meow. I have a carbine just waiting to be converted.

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