The 38-40 will take a new direction tomorrow...

Huey
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Sunday, November 17, 2019, 17:03 (2474 days ago)

The G2 Carbine will finally become reality. Correct 10mm bore stock isn't exactly easy to come by in rifle lengths. But, Gary stuck with it until he found the correct blank.

I'm going to explore upper level loads as I've done with the 5-Shot Reeder Revolver.

Lil Gun Powder tends to work miracles in rifle length pistol cartridge guns. The 357 Magnum gains about 300 fps over H110. I won't burn it in my revolvers, but a TC is a different animal.

May open the door to a good Lever Action in 38-40 or 401 GNR.

I'll post results here and data if Gary OKs it. But, neither of us would want the posted data tried in a Colt or Replica.

I HAD A T/C MADE UP

JT
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Sunday, November 17, 2019, 17:36 (2474 days ago) @ Huey

YEARS AGO. ALSO HAVE A RECENT MIROKU M92 AND AN ORIGINAL M92 IN .38-40 PLUS A RUGER BLACKHAWK .38-40/10MM AND A CUSTOM THREE SCREW .38-40 NOT TO MENTION COLT SAAs , NEW SERVICES, AND USFA SAs. MY FIRST CENTERFIRE SIXGUN IN 1957 WAS A COLT SAA .38-40 FROM AROUND 1900. GRAND OLD CARTRIDGE. A FREIND EVEN GAV EME SKEETER'S SPECIAL RCBS SEATING DIE FOR .38-40 CAST BULLETS.

.38-40s

JT
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Sunday, November 17, 2019, 17:50 (2474 days ago) @ JT

JT, that Bisley is fantastic. I love the cartridge myself.

Sid R
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Monday, November 18, 2019, 08:13 (2474 days ago) @ JT

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Three thumbs up on the Bisley. From the grips to

ChrisG
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Monday, November 18, 2019, 08:30 (2474 days ago) @ Sid R

the patina to the groups!

Look closer at that old Bisley

Ray
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Monday, November 18, 2019, 09:24 (2474 days ago) @ ChrisG

since it's been modified into a No. 5 by Gordon Martz, I believe. I think that was done during the days of the old sixgunner.com board.

YOU ARE CORRECT--GORDON MARTS DID IT

JT
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Monday, November 18, 2019, 11:00 (2474 days ago) @ Ray

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Very Neat!

ChrisG
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Monday, November 18, 2019, 12:53 (2473 days ago) @ Ray

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I try not to look. It just gives me more ideas...

Huey
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Monday, November 18, 2019, 13:44 (2473 days ago) @ ChrisG

That I don't need. Beautiful guns and appear to be shoots as well.

Yep...

ChrisG
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Monday, November 18, 2019, 14:25 (2473 days ago) @ Huey

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Yep, you've cost me lots of money!!! But...

Huey
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Sunday, November 17, 2019, 17:55 (2474 days ago) @ JT

I enjoy every minute of it. My path has been more backwards than forward.

I'm not doing anything you, Lee Martin, John Linebaugh and others haven't already done. It's just new to me and lots of powders to experiment with these days.

I've been impressed by the available power of the 38-40 combined with insignificant recoik. The fun continues, although I realize to a small audience in the Magnum Era.

There are some of us who appreciate the old guns

Jim Taylor
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Sunday, November 17, 2019, 18:08 (2474 days ago) @ Huey

and cartridges and what was done with them in the past. It's OK if no one notices. I enjoy reading your fun with them.

Way back before WWII did they market "rifle"

WB
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Sunday, November 17, 2019, 18:19 (2474 days ago) @ Huey

specific loads for .38 and .44 WCF?

Yes, both factory and load data...

Huey
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Sunday, November 17, 2019, 18:28 (2474 days ago) @ WB

Phil Sharpe had data in his manual originally published in 1937 (I think).

I still cautiously use my copies regularly. Powders have changed formulas, so extra care is used.

These cartridges respond to modern loads just as well as the old 45 Colt and 45-70.

In a strong gun the old 38-40 still outperforms the 40 S&W, 10mm, 10mm Magnum and 401 PowerMag.

That is some interesting information.

Woody
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Sunday, November 17, 2019, 18:51 (2474 days ago) @ Huey

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THERE IS VERY HOT OLD DATA

JT
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Sunday, November 17, 2019, 22:45 (2474 days ago) @ Huey

FOR BOTH .44WCF AND .38WCF IN THE OLDER MANUALS

Some too hot for my tastes...

Huey
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Monday, November 18, 2019, 05:40 (2474 days ago) @ JT

Cases, powder, etc have changed through the years. I realize when I'm happy with the performance I'm getting, there is more room left.

Since I own bigger guns, I don't push the old ones to the max. I understand some of the early reloaders didn't have all the options I enjoy today.

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