338 Falcon

Josh
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 06:35 (2458 days ago)

When the dies were on sell it seemed to be the big hit. I incorrectly assumed it was 30-30 based like most falcons but that’s the 330 Falcon. So what’s the 338?

The 338 Falcon is the 30-30 based....

Huey
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 06:49 (2458 days ago) @ Josh

338 Caliber. I believe the 330 Falcon is the 8mm based on the 30-30...

Correct,the 338 Falcon should work well.

Sean Harper
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 07:30 (2458 days ago) @ Huey

The 330 Falcon works good also.
Here is a hog I took with the 330 Falcon last January with the Barnes 160gr X Bullet at 2250 fps, shot was about 50 yards quartering,the blood is the exit hole, she went about 40 yards and piled up.

Sean

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Something on .338 bullets, jackets harder than a harlot's

WB
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 08:15 (2458 days ago) @ Sean Harper

heart. I'd really consider the game and impact velocity at distance. Accubonds (etc) or other premium bullets may not expand much under 2000 fps. You know they are made for .338 Win., .338-378 Wby., .338 Lapua etc. first and foremost in mind. .338 Federal (.338-08) at minimum, which will do amazingly well for it's size.

Actually cheaper, "old tech" bullets of a lighter weight will likely do best in handguns. That is a good thing. The classic Nosler Partition is known for it's soft nose and tough back end. I like the Speer 200 gr. SP for lighter game. It's comparatively inexpensive too. The Grand Slam would be a bit tough to expand much at lower velocities, but boy would it penetrate. The 8mm bullets have much thinner jackets and will expand easier at handgun velocities. The old 8mm vs .338 GNR controversy. I was in the .338 camp. Both are great.

We shot Blackbucks with the .338 GNR using a 200 gr. Hornady at 2600 fps. Shots were 100 and 140 yds. The bullets acted almost like a FMJ. Thankfully they are big to begin with and penetrated like through hot butter. The little 90 lb. critters had nothing to stop them. It was harrowing to think how a wounded $2500 animal could easily run off and you still had to pay for it or spend another $500+ to "try" (with dogs) and find it. But the excitement and success made it all a most memorable experience. One of my favorites.

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Doug is actually holding the horn in place. It was broken off in a fight and he got it for 1/2 price. Made the 2nd most incredible shot I've seen him do in the field, using the .338 GNR Encore handgun. *1st. was a hog in the eye, at night, one handed 35 yds., using a .475 LB Reeder custom. We have really had some good times.
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The 361Falcon rocks with the 232gr Norma bullets

Blake
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 09:06 (2458 days ago) @ WB

They expand fine![image][image][image]

I believe the Hornady 200 grn FTX to be a great 338 Falcon..

Huey
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 09:09 (2458 days ago) @ Blake

Choice. It was designed for more subdued velocity guns.

I have a box of those

Josh
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 09:35 (2458 days ago) @ Huey

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.338 bullets

Alcorn
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 05:51 (2457 days ago) @ Josh

I have been shooting 338 handguns since 1988. I find the swift 210gr Scirocco better than most. I use it in all 3 of my 338's; 338 JDJ Contender, 338/06 AI Encore, and 338 GNR Encore.

338 bullets

Sunny
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 09:37 (2458 days ago) @ Huey

I have lots of these and they work great bellow 338 Fed or 338 Express velocities, 200 gr FTX, Nosler BTs and Barnes 160 TTX, I have a custom cartridge of my own a 223 based 338 it is a might slow but 1 hole at 100 yards is where I'm at, The Falcon just sounds I need one cool

Have a pic of that 223 necked up to 338? Like to see that

Vern
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 11:28 (2458 days ago) @ Sunny

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Yes please

Josh
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 12:25 (2458 days ago) @ Vern

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pic 223 338

Sunny
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 14:13 (2458 days ago) @ Vern

left to right 221FB 223 Sunny's33[image]

Cool, totally unrelated, a guy was doing that but shorter

WB
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 15:10 (2458 days ago) @ Sunny

and rebarreling .351 Winchester rifles to .338. The .223/338 rounds had to be short enough to fit the magazines. The round was in one of the 10-12th editions of Cartridges of the World.

That is another contender for a straight walled potential hunting ctg. Goofy ass law but what innovation it has spurred.

Sunnys33

Sunny
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 17:18 (2458 days ago) @ WB

the nice thing about this one is no special dies just use a 223 for the body a 338 M die or just an expander from a 338 Fed or a Lee universal expander(flaring)will work also I have a Hornady 338 seater and share it with other 338s I have, Now I may have to find a 338 Whisper

Yep, they should. 9.3 velocities are moderate.

WB
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 09:41 (2458 days ago) @ Blake

The bullets like 8mm are designed, well suited for specialty handguns, close to the 9.3x57 and 8x57 rifle factory ammo speeds. I’d hate for someone to pick a bullet made for a 3500 fps Weatherby and get pissy when it acted like a FMJ at 1800 fps impact velocity on a Whitetail, blaming or condemning Gary’s cool cartridges. But hopefully if a guy can pick, make, shoot, a custom rig like that he’s smart enough to know that anyway.

Yep you can see the size of the exit hole on the middle pig

Blake
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 10:34 (2458 days ago) @ WB

The third big shows a entrance hole. The performance was the same on all 6 hogs I have shot this year

Yep, I bought a 355 GNR and it's a stellar performer...

Huey
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 10:36 (2458 days ago) @ Blake

Cast, rifle and pistol bullets work in it. Lots of great bullets for it.

Love the he 30-30 case volume and rim, for a G2 pistol

Blake
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 10:45 (2458 days ago) @ Huey

Next will be a .25Falcon barrel G2

I've had a 14" Contender in 25-35 Ackley for 25 years...

Huey
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 10:50 (2458 days ago) @ Blake

It easily shoots a 100 grn to 2800 fps. Accuracy is sub 1" at 100 yards.

I've always heard about the weak 30-30 case. But, that is straight up B.S. I've reloaded those 25-35 Ackley 15+ times.

In my opinion, it's the best case for the Contender platform.

Amen brother

Blake
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 11:41 (2458 days ago) @ Huey

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that is why I have 12 cartridges based on the 30-30 case

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 11:44 (2458 days ago) @ Huey

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All where with the Norma Oryx, bonded bullet

Blake
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Tuesday, December 03, 2019, 10:40 (2458 days ago) @ Blake

The vulkan is supposed to open up even faster. I am going to try them next.

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