For many years my wife's rifle

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 07:00 (2457 days ago)

was a Model 600 Remington in .243 Winchester. We called it the "meat gun" since it was fairly easy to bring home the meat with it.

The only bullet I loaded for hunting was the 95 gr. Nosler Partition bullet. I had seen the factory bullets blow up on leg bones .. usually because the shooter was using too light a bullet ... and I wanted something that would penetrate the bigger Mule deer we had in the mountains around Oracle, Arizona.

My loads ran 3100 fps from the Remington and I had sighted it about 1/4" high at 25 yards. This gave a maximum point blank range of nearly 300 yards. The mid-range trajectory was around 2 1/2". This is flat enough shooting that you could hold "on" the deer at normal ranges and not worry.

The rifle and load took a truckload of deer and javelina over 10 or 12 years and I do not recall ever having to shoot one twice. Recoil was mild enough that my 12 year old daughter could shoot it quite well.

We never had a bullet failure with the Nosler Partitions. I know the .243 has been cussed and discussed to death, but from what little experience I have with the caliber, I believe most of the problems have been driving a bullet that could not hold together much too fast.

Now that I am older I regret not having that gun. My old shoulders just don't like recoil anymore and for the game I shoot these days the .243 would work just fine.

WHEN MY SON-IN-LAW

JT
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 07:56 (2457 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

DECIDED TO START HUNTING I GAVE HIM THE BEST CHOICE I COULD THINK OF--A .243 RUGER M77 COMPACT. IF HE GOT A DEER THE FIRST HUNTING SEASON I TOLD HIM HE COULD KEEP IT. IT IS NOW HIS.

In the late 70's I fell into a good deal

WB
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 09:02 (2457 days ago) @ JT

On a Remington Montana State commemorative 600 Remington. It had a medallion in the stock and the radical looking plastic vent rib etc. It had already been hunted with and no box. The caliber was 6mm Remington (the only chambering of that run). So I got a Lee tap-tap-bang reloader kit and made my own ammo. The thing shot fantastic and while my buddies laughed at the looks, it worked. Sold it to Doug's dad and they made it the new meat gun. It stacked a pile of deer for the freezer.

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Later I had a custom "working" M98 Mauser built up by a local smith. Ordering the barrel I wanted a .257 Ackley but calling the order in they were fresh out of .25 barrels. But they had them in .243 bore diameter. I had a stainless fluted .243 Win. built. It shot great for 2-3 shots then went to crap. I never was happy with it. Sent it to another smith who did a simple re-chamber to 6mm Ackley and nothing else. It did the same thing. Taking matters into my own I found the A&B barrels, particularly the stainless ones like I had were notorious for having rough bores. I bought one of the "fire lap" kits to test. Same principle as hand lapping but more fun. It worked! The badly rough bore suddenly smoothed and it shoots like a champ. The lapping only helps a bad rough bore in dramatic fashion. If your bore is pretty good you won't see much improvement.

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The M98 feeds 6mm Remington factory butter smooth but switching to formed Ackley with blown straight sides and sharp shoulder it is a little cobby feeding. Makes sense. I'm sure a really good smith could stone this to improvement but I don't know anyone to do it. Guess I'll have to teach myself. The little Ackley can shoot the bullets too fast, 3500-3800 fps for 85 gr., 105's over 3300 fps. Throttling back some is lots more pleasant and I do not want to shoot the throat out.

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I did fall into a trade on a Ruger Stls. MKII in .243 Win. with rings and the skeleton stock with rubber inserts. Why, oh why did I sell it?!! It was a gem. They command stupid prices now days, much more than they are worth to old coots that have the money, and by golly just want one. For some reason, some folks refer to them a "Boat Paddle" stocked Rugers.

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I'm keeping my 6mm "Blue Gun". While I have a second laminated thumbhole sporter stock for it I like the shock effect of walking around with a Blue stocked gun. It has a Timney Trigger, MKII safety, and is Glass bedded, floated barrel. I've since changed out the Buehler mounts to little taller ring set, for more scope options. You know I like to be different.

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I have a Brown Precision that I bought in the early 80's.

Lymey
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 11:18 (2457 days ago) @ WB

I first loaded it with a 95gr Partition. Took a ton of deer. Later loaded a 90gr X bullet at 3100fps. Took a ton more of deer. I liked it so much that I had another made just like it in 350AI. I could get 2900 fps with the Nosler 225gr Partition. Shot a lot of elk and black bear with that one. Loaded it weighed right at 7pounds. Kicked like a mule. I still have both guns. Don't think that I would ever sell either of them.

Had a 77 mk1 243 ULT, sold it to a buddy

Amede
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 09:29 (2457 days ago) @ JT

of mine who has shot 3 bull elk with it. I still have one in '06 that I will never sell.

I too have stepped down but to 257 Ai.

bigboar
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 10:28 (2457 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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I fell in love with the 243 years ago. I had a

Drdougrx
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 10:42 (2457 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

Ruger mkll ultralite that wasn’t very accurate. I had it rebarrelled with a stiffer 20” fluted barrel. Better but not great. I sold it and bought a Tikka hunter....now I got accurate!!! I use 90gr Nosler accubonds over a good dose of RL22. 10 shots in a nickel at 100 .... like the 243!!

I have a Remington 700 in .243. Which

Larry Fry
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 11:24 (2457 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

of the Noslers are best for this caliber, Partition or Accubond? Are any of the Hornady bullets good for this caliber? I have been shooting factory loaded Remington ammo so have no idea what bullet they were using other than it is listed on the box as 100 grains (I think as I don't have a box around as I write this) so I have plenty of brass to reload but uncertain of which bullet to choose for hunting deer and hog sized game. Thanks for all suggestions!

I had folks tell me the partition bullets

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 12:44 (2457 days ago) @ Larry Fry

are not as accurate as the others. That may be when it comes to punching paper. They were accurate enough for taking game cleaning and that's all I cared about.

I wanted a bullet that would penetrate and not blow up on a bone if I pulled the shot. The partition bullet is about the best when it comes to going through stuff and staying together.

I went and got a box of the Remingtons.

Larry Fry
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 17:14 (2457 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

The box says the bullets are 100 grain Core Lokt. I have found them to be accurate but the recoil is sharp with them. I shot my 45-70 a bunch at the HHC in October and the recoil from it was only a little more than the 243. I wonder if I should try some hand loads with the partition bullets and start at a grain over minimum and see what they is like. What say you to that idea? Good or not good?

I am not a good one to ask .. maybe someone will comment

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 18:12 (2457 days ago) @ Larry Fry

what was easy recoil to me when my daughter was 12 don't feel the same way any more.

I used 4350 with my loads and never minded the recoil. That was a long time ago.

Now the idea of working up loads is a good one. It's never a waste of time as far as I am concerned.

I wish the editing department that

Larry Fry
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 21:00 (2457 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

resides in my keyboard would quit changing the tense of the verbs I use! I use 4350 in my 300 win mag so I have a lot of that powder. I think that I will get a variety of bullets on top of a single powder and see which one is most accurate in my gun. This is after reloading the 45-70's I shot up at the HHC. I just got a box of 405 grain Montana bullet works .458 bullets to load up......

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Rex
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 12:39 (2457 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

Jim, I bought that same rifle in a pawn shop for my son when he was 6 or 8.
I cut 4" off the stock and added a 4 power
Tasco to it. He carried it all over Texas and shot a ton of deer and turkey with it,
using my hand loads and various factory loads. He is 40 now. Sometime along the way I put the
cutoff stock pc. back on with screws and epoxy. He still uses it occasionally.

I reconditioned a Savage 99A

Sid R
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 13:35 (2457 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

and gifted it to my new wife. It is a tack driver with 100 grain lead tips.
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