Bullet Re-sizing to smaller diameters

WB
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 10:28 (2457 days ago)

This was an exercise I did a while back. The left is a .411 Hornady 300 gr. for a .405 Winchester that has been resized to .401". It is lengthened very slightly, and if you look close the interface between lead tip and jacket, has a very subtle change you can see. The jacket flexed just a little, then sprung back. Probably did not hurt a thing. The other bullet is a half-ass "white" powder coat .410" 270 gr. W/O the gas check on it as of yet, also sized to .401. You can see it too has been lengthened a few thousandths. Also note the plastic shell/jacket has not suffered any notable stress. It's fun stuff. Even though they look natty they would shoot just fine.

Now either would do for a custom single shot or heavy in a .38-40. I think I was playing with the 300 gr. for a custom .401 WSL load. I had to use special short cases to hold the bullet to an OAL that would fit the magazine. The 270 gr. FNGC is a fantastic .41 Magnum bullet, good in the .405 Winchester, and resized, a perfect .401 WSL hunting round close mimic of the factory loading. Simply a hammer for a custom load .38-40.

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I need to try the resize on some 505 Gibbs

Darryl T.
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 10:44 (2457 days ago) @ WB

Woodleigh bullets. Ended up with some on a horse trade, have plenty of.50 cal. to shoot them in. Will order Lee dies.

If the woodleigh bullet is a solid chunk of steel,good luck!

Sean Harper
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 11:21 (2457 days ago) @ Darryl T.

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Even the solid copper bullets are tough...

Huey
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 11:22 (2457 days ago) @ Sean Harper

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I don't think you can re-size monolithic of any kind

WB
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 11:38 (2457 days ago) @ Huey

I busted a press linkage not thinking that through. You must have a flexible "lead" core to allow the sides to give.

Often it is inconvenient, but if an intermediate size step can be made, it sure would help with leverage effort.

My .51 moulds throw bullets from .513-515" and I needed to lube them. Lyman 450 only has the .512" that is still too big for my .510 GNR revolver. But I use it to fill the lube grooves. I do a final LEE .510" push through size. It's not bad since I'm not shooting thousands of rounds and it works acceptably.

I got stuck with some really odd size bullets that are really nice projectiles. What to do?! PAPER PATCH! It works great and is a nice way to relieve tension at my desk. With a little information and time you can do about anything. You rough up the jackets a little by rollling on a flat file, then the jackets roll up on the wet paper just fine. It grips so tight when dry you'd have to carve it off with a knife. I rub a bit of liquid alox on the paper and it lasts forever. Well probably at least 100 yrs.

What kind of paper?

Josh
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 12:12 (2457 days ago) @ WB

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Lots written about that, in truth as long as

WB
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 13:16 (2457 days ago) @ Josh

you don't tear it, and it does not tear while tightening during drying it will work. I used the copy paper in my printer, because that's what I have. By specifics and not sought out attributes it is a 20# weight, 75 g/m squared 92 Bright. They cite the "rag" content and such. Most paper these days has some plastic in it too. The brightness has to do with the chemical bleaching. What this does to the paper quality I'm not sure. You want it bright for copy paper.

Mainly you want the end of the wrap over the edge of the ojive of what bullet you are using and the thickness pretty uniform or ending where you started pretty close.

Darryl, put them on here for sale.

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 11:43 (2457 days ago) @ Darryl T.

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Gary, what type 505 bullets are you needing?

Woody
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 19:51 (2457 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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I really don't need any as I have several

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, December 05, 2019, 10:07 (2456 days ago) @ Woody

boxes. I just thought I would work out something with Darryl on his.

those Woodleigh bullets are hard as a whore's heart

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 12:11 (2457 days ago) @ Darryl T.

I wouldn't try to size them down personally. But if you decide not to size them down, give me a call and maybe we can work a deal on them. I have a custom 505 Gibbs on the drawing board right now and those bullets might come in handy.

They are round nose copper jacket lead core.

Darryl T.
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 12:51 (2457 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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505 Gibbs in a Ruger #1??

Woody
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Wednesday, December 04, 2019, 19:59 (2457 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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maybe

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, December 05, 2019, 10:06 (2456 days ago) @ Woody

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I shot Bear's .500 Jeffery Reeder #1! Still don't understand

WB
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Thursday, December 05, 2019, 12:58 (2456 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

how the extractor actually worked but it did. He was quite proud how it was more powerful than a .505 Gibbs. It did feel pretty tough!

It isnt more powerful..the Gibbs is factory underloaded. I

Woody
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Thursday, December 05, 2019, 17:48 (2456 days ago) @ WB

can safely load the Gibbs to near 2600fps with a 600gr jacketed bullet and have. Not possible with the 500 Jeff. Its not a pleasant load to shoot, even in a heavy bolt rifle like mine WITH the built-in mercury recoil reducer. I prefer 525's at 2400/2500fps.

Underloaded, just like the 416 Rigby was.

Woody
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Thursday, December 05, 2019, 17:50 (2456 days ago) @ Woody

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True, rebated rims like the 500 Jeff are tricky extraction,

Woody
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Thursday, December 05, 2019, 17:55 (2456 days ago) @ Woody

and the cause of failure to extract on many bolt rifles and have drove many a gunsmith crazy in trying to get it done reliably. Wont see many doubles in this cartridge either.

600gr @ 2200 in reviewing my load data, not 2600

Woody
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Thursday, December 05, 2019, 18:01 (2456 days ago) @ Woody

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You can get a 600 to 2600 safely, but too brutal!!

Woody
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Thursday, December 05, 2019, 18:15 (2456 days ago) @ Woody

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