You know I get board easy, nervious tension

WB
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 11:39 (2445 days ago)

and tinkering is a safe release. I have toyed with the AR platform, not because I particularly like it, it's just easy to manipulate and allows me to pursue the different calibers.

I have an infatuation with the old Winchester SL rifles that actually are not all that "good". But they are interesting, and that's enough for me. They made them from 1905 up to 1957 and they were used by sportsmen, warriors, police, prisons, very historical. I like that. The .351 is likely the very best of the bunch if you ever wanted to play with them. Just watch for cracked up forend wood unless you are good with Accraglass. You can make ammo from .38/357, Maximum, or .223 brass, .38/9mm bullets resized to .352".

Can you name all the cartridges?
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I'm using Palmetto guns and BCA barrels, very conscious of rules and regulations. My latest was a .450 Bushmaster pistol. I chose it over the .458 SOCOM or .50 BW since it uses .45 Colt bullets and has superior performance with bullets from 185-405 grs. I had no cartridges so while I waited on parts and components I mocked one up from a 7mm Rem. Mag. altered on the lathe and using a 405 gr. JSP bullet (yes it can be re-sized to .452" easily). They have magazines for sale at fair prices, aftermarket followers too. I wanted to see if I could modify a standard 20 rnd. 5.56 follower to work. I didn't alter the mag, just the glass filled plastic follower. I have both on hand.

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Grinding the top hump off to make a flat top follower would create holes on the right side of the follower. It is to become a single stack mag with the fat cartridges. So I fulled in the bottom cavity with JB weld. This worked fine. I don't think I lost any integrity and it's not that stressed a part anyway. This is not a combat gun nor serious hunting rig, it's for fun mostly. I'll get a more suitable mag later after the project comes together. This is just some tinkering. I'm only out a 7mm case and a $1 follower.

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You get that pistol 450 upper?

Derek
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 12:36 (2445 days ago) @ WB

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Just re read your post, let us know how that pistol upper

Derek
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 12:50 (2445 days ago) @ Derek

Works out for you. What kind of velocity, etc. Enjoy your posts!

Not sure what I was thinking, just goofing.

WB
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 13:02 (2445 days ago) @ Derek

Yeah Sunny, it does not hurt anything and we'll just shoot them up. Eventually. I was really looking at a 16" carbine and wanted to try a side charging upper. Alas, procrastination allowed them to be all picked over. So the more standard rear charging 10.5" project it is. Several friends have hinted that it will kick the snot out of me fired from the shoulder. I have no intentions to mount a scope, just a dot type sight. No scope eyebrow.

The ballistics will be interesting in the shorter barrel. Using Gary's formula it will probably loose around 200 fps. I'll see and let you know. Cheating with slicker bullets will re-gain 100 fps easy. Sort of a AR version of a .454 Casull.

The .458 SOCOM has a different rifling twist specification for really heavy bullets up to 500 grs. for subsonic shooting. I was not really interesting in going there myself. The .50 BW sounded fun but I have .510" stuff and didn't want to have .501" stuff laying around too. My hope is that I can make it shoot Cowboy SWC and feed through that magazine.

I'll have to post a pic of my eclectic collection of ARs. Not practical, not tactical, just fun.

case making

Sunny
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 14:37 (2445 days ago) @ WB

If I were not STILL working I would invest in a small lathe, I have made by hand with several different devices I made, Brass for OLD German black powder rifles both single and double barrel, To just shoot a few times and then move them on or to the back of the safe never to see daylight again, One double rifle took 80 hours to make 20 cases had to rework them after the first firing, actually the first case took the longest, Almost coughed up the bucks then for a lathe my hands hurt like hell for a month, Then learning how to paper wrap, now I just find something close and use PC when I can size close or plain lead. Thank god for trailboss no stinkin PB for me

I got a heck of a deal on a "Smithy" 3 in 1 machine

WB
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 14:58 (2445 days ago) @ Sunny

It is a lathe, able to turn a 12" piece 20" long. It is also a milling machine, drill press using the arbor in the mill, and using the lathe and chuck in the tail stock, a drill press also. I think my model is the 1220 Granite.

It's like someone giving you an airplane though. You can start it, taxi about. Getting off the ground and actually flying necessitates some higher instruction! I have made some firing pins, small parts, modified things, etc. I am dangerous drilling and tapping as I simply can't see that good anymore! I do use it to trim brass and modify rims, that is fun.

My friend poke fun at me for using lots of Trail Boss but by golly it is so handy and useful. Hard to go very wrong with it unless you compress it.

bored

Sunny
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 12:38 (2445 days ago) @ WB

Mine usually hits around 9:00 in the evening, That is one nice looking case, glad I do not have a lathe or I would be doing such too till way past midnight, Last night was unnecessary 30 Herrett loading found a new recipe so had to add to the probably hundred already loaded and waiting to be tried. Glad I'm not the only one

No one tried to guess the ctgs...

WB
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 15:11 (2445 days ago) @ WB

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Right 4 ctgs

Derek
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 18:02 (2445 days ago) @ WB

351 wsl, 401, wsl, your fabricated 450 bushmaster, 450 Gnr?

No clue as to the others without googling.

You got the ones on the right...

WB
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 18:50 (2445 days ago) @ Derek

from the left is the .327 Federal, next .32 WSL (which I think can use .327 Brass to function w/ a .32 Special 170 gr. .321" bullet), and a .35 WSL which is about like a .38 Special +P in a semi-auto rifle the M1905. I think bullet is the same as the .351 but less pressure, smaller case.

Some day when I retire and get more tools

Sid R
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Monday, December 16, 2019, 17:40 (2445 days ago) @ WB

Or machines I want to tinker with a .410 SDR. Off AR-10 platform. I can hardly move in my shop and work for all the stuff I have or concocted. I'm in the middle of getting the pluming done on a 24x40 cabin that is just for reloading and minor gun repair/refurbishment.

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