Whats the difference in 50 Ak and 50-110?
Fred
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Thursday, December 19, 2019, 04:23 (2442 days ago)
In reference to the post about the Bfr, would be great to be able to shoot the different rounds in it like 510 gnr, 500 Linebaugh.
50 AK= 2.100"---------- 50-110 Win = 2.300"
Sean Harper
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Thursday, December 19, 2019, 05:55 (2442 days ago) @ Fred
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The big .50-110 WCF was a long straight case
WB
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Thursday, December 19, 2019, 08:29 (2442 days ago) @ Sean Harper
Many Winchester cartridges use it as a basic case. The .348 Winchester did also many decades later. The .50 AK is the .348 Win. more or less straightened out. It was as big and as long as the 1886 rifle could manage. The .50 Bowen, .510 GNR, .500 Linebaugh, .500 Max. are all shorter versions adapted to humongous handgun platforms. In each case they try to maximize efficiency and useful capacity to that specific platform.
Gary’s .510 GNR is a little shorter than a .500 Linebaugh so it can be loaded down easier with a lighter bullet, but still enough capacity to load back up to Linebaugh levels with a more realistic bullet weight. His design was for a much more broad range of use. The Bowen short 50 focuses on a lighter level for smaller guns.
The study of drivers of design is interesting in itself.
Sean and I are working on a new cartridge that
Gary Reeder
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Thursday, December 19, 2019, 10:14 (2442 days ago) @ WB
is the 50-110 necked down to 416. I tentatively had an elephant hunt set up for next May and John, my PH, said for elephant go with the 416 as it penetrates deeper. So I came up with the 50-110 down to 416. I recently found out I didn't get drawn for the elephant so we will still go with the new cartridge but there is no drastic hurry. I am also working on a couple of other large capacity cartridges strictly for dangerous game, both based on the 450/400 case. But more on that later.
About all I can manage in a scope Encore
WB
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Thursday, December 19, 2019, 10:26 (2442 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
Is a 400/410 gr. .416 at around 1800-1900 fps in the 416 GNR handgun. That’s real close to the real performance from my 20” muzzle braked .416 Rigby.
I think it’s plenty for me!
The .375/300 gr. Solid is a proven killer and from a lot more versatile platform. Perhaps the .378 GNR and .416 would be a great African combination.
Performance is a 400 gr solid at 2150+ fps, it is a handfull
Sean Harper
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Thursday, December 19, 2019, 10:35 (2442 days ago) @ WB
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At that level you don't want much in a day, like radiation.
WB
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Thursday, December 19, 2019, 12:08 (2442 days ago) @ Sean Harper
I had to change the bolt spring after about 75 shots. It began to kick out from under the bolt lock and open the action. Been there before. A $3 spring fixed that.
The scope and mounts take a terrible beating too. Not to mention your body. It kicks straight back and I have to wrap my off hand thumb behind my other supporting hand to keep it away from that evil trigger guard. Not certain I haven't fractured a knuckle or two.
About 10-12 in a day, broken up in 3 shot groups, split by shooting something more civil, (like a .256 Falcon) is how I manage without flinching horrifically. The Pachmayr grip I love so much places your hand closer to the guard, but I can hardly reach the trigger without compromising my grip with the factory item. It takes some consideration to overcome.
Puffy claimed over 2000 fps with the .416 GNR and IMR3031 but I do not need to go there. I backed off using H322 to 1850 fps and called it good. With the .440 GNR Magnum I was good with the 300 gr. to about 2300 fps. My .378 GNR in the FA2008 5 lb. gun at the same level makes me cry and almost whacks me in the face, even with the good brake. A revolver grip on a single shot with 3500 ft. lbs energy is not really a stellar idea. IMO.
Just don't confuse the 50-110 Win and 50-110 Sharps...
Huey
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Thursday, December 19, 2019, 06:28 (2442 days ago) @ Fred
Two completely different cartridges...