Ruger 5.7x28 - Was a no brainer to add one of these...
Huey
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 14:52 (2423 days ago)
I realize not my usual prehistoric type of gun, but too unique to pass up.
Good sights for use as a hunting pistol too.
Feel like this might just be a sleeper. Some are ranting that this round is dead. I'm not so sure myself. Seems like many said the same about Single Shot Rifles when the #1 came out and ditto on the 45 Colt in the Blackhawk.
Seems both of those ideas worked out pretty dang good.
it would be nice if it was a success, but it has
Gary Reeder
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 15:25 (2423 days ago) @ Huey
some bad things going against it. First the "cop killer" stigma that the liberal press put on it when it had the steel core. That in itself caused a lot of liberal states to ban the sale of the ammo. Secondly the price of the ammo. When we sold the ammo it was something like $35 a box of 50. When you figure the price in at today's prices, it probably is more, whereas the 22 Magnum is about half that. Yes, you can reload it but reloading it has to be a real pain in the butt with those tiny little bullets and short case. And the brass might be rare or pricey or both. Also the original FN got a bad rep for being inaccurate.
I hope it is accurate and if Ruger builds it, they have done everything to make it right.
Agree with all that. Federal and Speer making ammo...
Huey
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 15:31 (2423 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
Now. I'm seeing it from $24-29/50. Certainly not a plinker, but unique enough to pursue.
I've already got dies. Lee with the factory crimp die that makes it somewhat easier.
Will just see how it works out. Certainly agree with the faith in Ruger...
MINE WILL BE HERE TOMORROW. DIES/BULLETS ON THE WAY
JT
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 15:38 (2423 days ago) @ Huey
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Hope you'll report. Let us know if it goes to publication..
Huey
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 15:40 (2423 days ago) @ JT
Look forward to hearing your thoughts and opinions.
I'm holding out for the 4.6x30mm version...
WB
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 15:58 (2423 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
That's HK's counter to the FN Five-Seven / P90 in the MP7 machine pistol. Seriously what Mr. T. has to say about it in print (and some others) will go a long way toward the initial success. I applaud the effort but predict a WHOLE BUNCH will be had at a very nice price this time next year. The luster will wear quickly. It will be great if the main suppliers begin selling components (lighter than 35 grs.) and affordable ammo. Just wait till the Youtube back yard experts get hold of it!
Support with good ammo, components, etc..
Huey
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 16:38 (2423 days ago) @ WB
Is paramount too. I'm glad to see innovation in the gun world.
Many times the new cartridges get praised or bashed for little or no reason. Mostly by people who've never shot them, of course!!!
I think the over priced guns available hurt the 5.7x28 more than anything.
I'm really glad to see this gun and the Glock 44 this year.
I wouldn't put much value in the 4.6 X 30 (18 caliber).
Gary Reeder
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 17:12 (2423 days ago) @ WB
NATO did a bunch of testing and found it inefficient and barrel eroding..here are their tests...
A series of tests performed by NATO in the United Kingdom and France indicated that 5.7×28mm was a superior cartridge.[8] The results of the NATO tests were analyzed by a group of experts from France, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom and the group's conclusion was that the 5.7×28mm was "undoubtedly" the more efficient cartridge.[8]
Among other points, the NATO group cited superior effectiveness (27% greater) for the 5.7×28mm against unprotected targets and equal effectiveness against protected targets.[8] It also cited less sensitivity to extreme temperatures for the 5.7×28mm and cited a greater potential risk of barrel erosion with the 4.6×30mm.[8] In addition, the group pointed out that 5.7×28mm is close to the 5.56×45mm NATO by its design and manufacture process, allowing it to be manufactured on existing production lines.[8] The group also pointed out that 5.7×28mm weapons are more mature than 4.6×30mm weapons, and the 5.7×28mm FN Five-seven pistol was already in production at that time, while the 4.6×30mm Heckler & Koch UCP pistol was still only an early concept.[8] However, the German delegation and others rejected the NATO recommendation that 5.7×28mm be standardized, and as a result, the standardization process was indefinitely halted.[1][8]
also the 4.6 has been around for 20 years and has
Gary Reeder
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 17:16 (2423 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
only impressed the Germans.
I am not a fan of the 5.7 (for no reason at all
Gary Reeder
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 17:42 (2423 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
except all the crap in the news several years ago which demonized the 5.7 cartridge and the folks that shoot it). Kinda sorta like how they demonize AR-15 shooters today. But the 5.7 must be doing something good as 40 countries are now using it, whereas only one country (Germany) is impressed with the 4.6. WB must have some German in him.
Would be a boring world if we all liked the same thing...
Huey
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 17:49 (2423 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
I've never fired one. So, may love it or hate it.
Just feel this Ruger is the right way for me to try it for the first time. Hopefully the Misfits will hear from JT too. Especially true about the handloading part.
I was being a smart ass. Lol. Can’t even pull that off.
WB
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 18:07 (2423 days ago) @ Huey
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I believe I read that too on Wikipedia
Sid R
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Monday, January 06, 2020, 18:11 (2423 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
When researching stuff one day.