nearly a year ago I told the guys that will be joining me

Gary Reeder
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Monday, January 13, 2020, 14:47 (2416 days ago)

in Africa in May that some of the hunting rules had changed that would effect handgunners. One of the changes was that a hunting handgun had to be at least 8" and had to have a scope on it. About that time a couple of gun writers had hunted Cape Buffalo with short barrel revolvers with no scope. I mentioned this to John Abraham of Madubula Safaris and asked if the scope and long barrel was just a rule in one certain area. He said it was a new rule that affected all of South Africa and would for sure affect us. I have hunted with John in Africa on 14 safaris with #15 coming up in a few months so I know he wasn't just filling me with BS. He mentioned this to the folks that make up the rules and they said they would "look into it". I figured that was as far as it would go. John texted me this morning that an outfitter and PH that let 2 hunters hunt and take Cape Buffalo with semi auto pistols with barrels less than 8" long had been arrested and given their choice of 8 years in a South African jail or a $250,000 fine. He said he would have more info on this in a few days.

That would get your attention...

Huey
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Monday, January 13, 2020, 14:59 (2416 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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Glad I had you make me a

Alcorn
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Monday, January 13, 2020, 15:22 (2416 days ago) @ Huey

African revolver. 445 SM with 8.5 barrel and scope.

That’s why I sent my FA83 to Gary

MTM
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Monday, January 13, 2020, 18:31 (2416 days ago) @ Alcorn

To add a welded on brake to make it long enough to take with me this year. Should get there tomorrow.

African revolver

Ron Orbeck
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Monday, January 13, 2020, 17:07 (2416 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Does Barrel length include the brake?

yes, as long as it isn't one of those dog turd looking brake

gary reeder
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Monday, January 13, 2020, 19:01 (2416 days ago) @ Ron Orbeck

as long as it seems to be part of the barrel, it is OK.

gary, any more info on who it was that shot the Cape Buffalo

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 16:08 (2415 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

with a semi auto? I remember some guy shot a buffalo with a 10mm Glock and I read it took 11 shots for him and his PH.

no, this is the exact note I got from John, my PH

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 16:19 (2415 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

A South African outfitter who let his client shoot a buffalo with a pistol has been charged for hunting with a handgun with a barrel length less than 8” and a pistol.
8 years in prison or a fine of $250,000!!


I do have my suspicions but would rather not go into that. There were 2 or 3 yoyos that bragged about shooting a Cape Buffalo with a 10mm.

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