Truth from Marty Ebbinghaus....
Huey
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:29 (2401 days ago)
"We are GOING TO AFRICA IN A MONTH TO TEST SOME OF THOSE JDJ'S because we can come back with tales "AS" JD Jones, Larry Kelly, Gary Reeder and Mark Hampton did that inspired a generation of handgun hunting. NOTICE I DID NOT say "LIKE" in that previous sentence, I'm still a realist, and have so much to learn about handgun hunting."
J.D. is a friend so don't take this as negative but I
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:01 (2401 days ago) @ Huey
never used or owned a JDJ barrel, for hunting or plinking. Even my very first few Safaris I used my own calibers. I used the 450 GNR, 41 GNR, 378 GNR and 338 GNR on my first few African hunts.
I think that's just continuation of SSKs selling out...
Huey
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:10 (2401 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
And someone trying to keep it going. I grew up on TCs starting around 12 years old. Had a cousin/neighbor that shot silhouettes in that era.
Have barrels from TC, Fox Ridge and any number of others. All are good and never found the need for a measuring contest or internet drama.
Gun builders are like restaurants. You can tell which ones are good by how busy they are.
I thought good of Marty to name those who pioneered the Hand Cannon building.
JD's stuff was/is good. A different take
WB
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:36 (2401 days ago) @ Huey
from Gary's stuff. He seems to have always used really good quality barrel blanks, that really helped. He did like aluminum with those 4 ring mounts and those ribs. Glued (red lock-tire) and screwed they worked. The rings he told me spread the recoil forces over a more broad area and flexed the scope body less, so your scope lasted longer. That made since to me and I try to manage that myself when I can. I've had a couple. Liked matte chrome plating too. He had his own niche.
In the 1980's he started going toward the Class III stuff and I know he pitched some specialty suppressed/full auto stuff to U.S. Military Security folks. Maybe others too.
I've spoken to him on the phone about 3-4 times over the years and he helped me on a job or two. Treated me very fairly. He stopped going to the Y-O the year Gary first took me so I have not gotten to actually meet him yet. God Bless him and I pray for his health to improve.
wow, sounds like a slam on GNR's barrels.
Jason Tiernan
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:58 (2401 days ago) @ WB
"JD's are good but a different take on Gary's. JD used good barrel blanks". That was a low blow.
Trust me, it wasn't. WB is and has been a loyal supporter..
Huey
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:01 (2401 days ago) @ Jason Tiernan
Of GNR for many moons. Any regular Misfit knows that.
Told Gary when I posted this someone would stir the pot.
We know what WB meant. Just let it go.
IC
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:05 (2401 days ago) @ Huey
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Irv, I agree!!!
Huey
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:06 (2401 days ago) @ IC
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gunsmiths
Alcorn
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 16:30 (2401 days ago) @ Huey
This is somewhat difficult for me. I know and have hunted with JD and Gary many times. I consider both friends and expert crafts men. I own custom guns by Gary Reeder, J D Jones, David Clements, and Tim Thompson. I have met Hamilton Bowen, talked on phone to John Linebaugh and John Richard Huntington. All seem to be polite gentleman to me. Having said all of this, Gary and JD are the most innovative.
Alcorn, that was well stated...
Huey
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 18:36 (2401 days ago) @ Alcorn
I too have custom revolvers and TC's from a number of fine gunsmiths.
But, Gary is the most willing to work with customers by far.
I'll always have to settle for being the second Craziest Misfit. I've learned to live with that.
For me alone Gary has mastered the 40 S&W and 10mm Auto on the S6 Frame because I requested it. He gave the second attempt at the 25-20 in revolvers. To say it exceeded expectations would be an understatement.
Putting Colt New Frontier Barrels on Ruger Blackhawks. My first is a 7.5" 44 Special. It is my favorite 44 Special in my collection.
Sure there are other examples. No other gunsmith would attempt such goals to make a customer's idea come to life.
Huey, now I have to agree.
IC
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 19:17 (2401 days ago) @ Huey
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I apologize. I just read it wrong
Jason Tiernan
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:17 (2401 days ago) @ Huey
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Nah, no problem. Gary took some of us to the Y-O
WB
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 18:01 (2401 days ago) @ Jason Tiernan
to the SCI Handgun Hunt there. He introduced us to all the industry guys there. Peter Pi from Cor-bon, The nice fellow from Magnum Research, Ernie French from TC, Bob Baker from FA, Dick Williams, on and on... Gary said JD might be there but he had gotten a bit of ill health and did not make it any of the times I went. Plus a lot of those folks had their kids with them it was a great time. We got to mess with prototypes and pre-production stuff too.
I always had several of Gary's guns (my personal ones) on display and talked to the guys about them. They thought I worked for Gary! LOL.
To be be truly knowledgeable you need to experience as broad a spectrum as possible. I've tried to as my resources have allowed. I've had all kinds of guns and from many custom shops. Few, very few, custom shops will alloy much input or choices aside from "packages" they have developed. Of all, GNR really allows (tolerates) customer input in spades. It has been one heck of a fun ride and I have met so many good people. My literal life has been greatly enriched and I am so grateful to him. It was admirable for you to be ready to defend GNR on his turf, kudos!
This was an early adventure HHC in TX.
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Taz Ridley was in charge of the invitations and
Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 11:02 (2400 days ago) @ WB
just about everything else concerning the Celebrity handgun Hunt and he was up to his ass in alligators. The hunt was a charity hunt and we gathered up many thousand lbs of meat for the needy at Christmas. It started out at $995 per person to hunt and we got usually a buck and 2 or 3 does of various species, usually Sika or Axis deer. When it ended I think it was $1495 or somewhere in that range. There was all kinds of animals at the Y.O. Ranch including all kinds of exotic animals, African animals and whitetail deer. Kase donated a custom 1911 and I donated a custom revolver and other folks like Freedom Arms, Magnum research, SSK, TC, Remington, Surefire, and several others donated custom guns, barrels and various other prizes that were given away. One of the prizes, usually either my revolver or Kase's 1911 was given away to the person that brought in the most meat. Usually someone with deep pockets took that prize by shooting 2 or 3 Bison. One fellow shot a whole herd of about 10 female Red Stag (called Hinds) and took the prize that year.
Taz was so frustrated that I asked him if I could help. He was pissed at all the old fat guys that came to the hunt (it was by invitation only) and they never bought anything or contributed anything except play poker all night and feed off the open bar. He asked me if I could bring some new blood into the hunt. I told him yes and I took over the invitations. I invited probably 25 guys off this forum, including Scotty, Doug Faith, Puffy, Andy Rowe, Larry Farley, Charlie Herf, Kelly Brost, Sean Harper, Greg Geiger, Brian Tonnacliff, Bill Firman and a bunch of others I can't think of right now. I apologize to any of you that I didn't mention. It gave the Celebrity Handgun Hunt a little life for the next 3 or 4 years. Finally the 2 handgun chapters' infighting in the Safari Club ruined a good thing and the hunt ended after about 15 years or so.But it was a great thing while it lasted and it helped out a lot of needy at Christmas time.
he meant coming back with tales to inspire H-G hunters
Woody
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:11 (2401 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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Was going to post this but Huey beat me lol
Bucky
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Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:13 (2401 days ago) @ Huey
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