Ruger SA Frames

JS
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 14:13 (2388 days ago)

Am I the only one having a long-held suspicion that Ruger (or others) would be well served with a frame size somewhere between the big bulky BH and 'petite' Single Six?... just put the two side by side and ponder the 'gulf' between these existing 'platforms.' Yes, decades of people have "made-do" with the two, but imagine what could be creatively done taking full advantage of that sweet spot...

Well, there's the Ruger Midframe, FA97 and a host of...

Huey
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 14:16 (2388 days ago) @ JS

Colt 1873 Clones in the middle already...

Saw a thread some where on the new Vaquero being

Bucky
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 14:38 (2388 days ago) @ Huey

able to be chambered in bigger cartridges like 44 Mag, 475 etc because the main strength was in the cylinder somewhere on here. Can not find it to save my life lol

I've seen them in 480 Ruger and 50 GI...

Huey
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 14:45 (2388 days ago) @ Bucky

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don't believe it. Way back in the mid '90s we

Gary Reeder
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 14:54 (2388 days ago) @ Bucky

came up with our Ultimate Vaquero and chambered the first 2 test guns, which were the large frame Vaquero, in 475 Linebaugh. Both guns had hairline cracks in the rear top of the frame within about 20 rounds. The top strap is already thin due to the groove down the middle, and to put a larger 5 shot cylinder in there we have to take even more meat out of the top strap which makes it even thinner and more prone to stretch and crack with large caliber cartridges. It is true most of the strength is in the cylinder and in most case a blown gun blows the cylinder first but not always and the larger calibers will stretch a frame real quick. When we came out with our BMF on our own stretch frame we had 2 guys blow them in half. And these were some of the beefiest and strongest cylinders made. But nothing is idiot proof.

I don't believe the New Vaquero is totally safe with 44 Magnum rounds. Especially some of the extreme high pressure factory rounds from a couple of companies. It wasn't designed to be shot with these hot rounds. It was designed for the cowboy shooters that wanted a gun the same size and weight as the first generation Colt.

Some of the custom gun buys might jump on the larger calibers in the New Vaquero but not this Tennessee boy.

Have to agree and even worse when they add S&W Sights...

Huey
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 15:12 (2388 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

That top strap is skinny enough without removing even more steel.

that conversion I really don't understand. We

Gary Reeder
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 16:02 (2388 days ago) @ Huey

have done several conversions of the Vaquero to a Blackhawk type revolver. It is a lot of work, welding up the top strap, then milling out the T shape cut out for the rear sight, then fitting a new sight, plus changing the front sight to a Blackhawk style front sight, then rebluing the entire thing. I think the last one we did was around $850 to a grand for the conversion and the guy could have bought a new Blackhawk and had a couple hundred bucks left over.
The Vaquero before the conversion
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Then the conversion in steps..the high screw you see was changed to a small flathead screw after these pics were taken.
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Must have been the Old Vaquero, did see a 500 Lb online

Bucky
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 16:10 (2388 days ago) @ Bucky

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Loving my flattop .45...Svelte compared to a

ChrisG
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 14:47 (2388 days ago) @ Huey

normal BH.

Ruger "midframe"

JS
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 14:59 (2388 days ago) @ Huey

Huey, is the midframe (AKA "old frame?") essentially Blackhawk size with a shorter cylinder (and window)? If I've ever run across one in my life, maybe just assumed it was a BH... just calipered my Uberti 1873 clone cylinder, 1.671, and SBH cyl, 1.729... maybe cylinder dia is a better gauge of the "frame size" I'm trying to distinguish.

IN THE BEGINNING RUGER

JT
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 15:25 (2388 days ago) @ JS

HAD THREE FRAME SIZES: 1) SINGLE-SIX; 2) .357 BLACKHAWK; 3) .44 BLACKHAWK PLUS THE LITTLE BEARCAT. WHEN THEY WENT TO THE NEW MODEL THEY DROPPED THE MID-FRAME AND THE .357 WAS HOUSED IN THE .44 NEW MODEL FRAME. NOW THEY HAVE THREE AGAIN: 1) SINGLE-SIX; 2) NEW MODEL FLAT-TOP; 3) STANDARD BLACKHAWK SIZE PLUS THE BEARCAT.

Thanks JT, the Fog has lifted!

JS
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Monday, February 10, 2020, 15:32 (2388 days ago) @ JT

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