rare brass?
ted thornton
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Thursday, April 16, 2020, 12:53 (2317 days ago)
I have a few "475 Ruger" cases. I believe this was the original cartridge for the 480 Ruger. They are the same also made by Hornady. Maybe someone knows how they ended up in circulation.
Thanks, Tedt
John Taffin can correct me on this but I imagine
Gary Reeder
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Thursday, April 16, 2020, 13:32 (2317 days ago) @ ted thornton
when the 480 Ruger first came out the experimental gun and experimental cartridges were sent to gun writers for articles. I would imagine the very first one would have gone to John. Then somewhere along the line the original 475 Ruger brass ended up in a trade or sold as once fired brass. Just my guess and may be totally off the mark.
HAVE NOT SEEN ANY
JT
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Thursday, April 16, 2020, 17:05 (2317 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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many years ago a good friend and gun writer Dick Williams
gary reeder
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Thursday, April 16, 2020, 21:42 (2316 days ago) @ JT
did an article on the Freedom Arms and got a large batch of 454 Casull ammo along with the gun or guns he did the article on. After doing the article he stashed the brass away in his garage.
Recently Dick's wife asked him kindly to "clean this pigs sty up!!!"So he started bring truck loads of ammo and fired brass to me and I sold it on our Saturday Sale. Going thru the piles and piles of ammo and brass I noticed something strange. He had several boxes of fired 454 brass with the NAA (North American Arms) head stamp. Looking closer I noticed something else. The brass had the large primer pocket. Clutching them to my bosom I ran back into our back room yelling "Mine Mine Mine!!!".
I know that good friend Bob Baker, of Freedom Arms is a much smarter ballistics guru that I am and went with the small rifle primer in their 454 cases. Now I have no idea where NAA came up with the large primer pocket brass but for my own personal use I sure am happy with it. One of these days I am going to ask Bob but that hasn't happened yet. I have wanted large primer pocket brass forever, as sometimes if one of our custom 454 revolvers has a nice light action job it won't set a small rifle primer off. So this would solve my problem. I had 4 or 5 boxes of the large primer pocket brass so i set 2 boxes of it back for our test firing at the shop and the other 2 boxes for my personal use in my 410 GNR and 429 GNR ammo. I will admit to being a hoarder of this brass but now I can slick up my own personal guns with a light hammer fall and not worry about getting a misfire. For those that have the small primer pocket brass, switch to the small magnum pistol primers and it will normally solve any misfire problems you might have with our custom guns other than a high primer.
And if I sounded like John Taffin would have any of the 475 Ruger brass, chalk that up to my rambling post. John was and is the only top rated gun writer I know.
I DO STILL HAVE SOME
JT
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Thursday, April 16, 2020, 22:35 (2316 days ago) @ gary reeder
LP NAA BRASS. FIRST FA CAME UP WITH INSERTS TO CHANGE THE LP TO SP. THEN SWITCHED OVER TO ALL SP.
Freedom sold small brass bushings that
james
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Friday, April 17, 2020, 09:00 (2316 days ago) @ JT
fit the large primer pocket so small rifle primers could be used... Have some along with NAA..
I had heard about the brass bushings but
Gary Reeder
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Friday, April 17, 2020, 12:51 (2316 days ago) @ james
never saw any. But I didn't start using any Freedom Arms guns until much later. I was always a 44 Mag Ruger SBH or S&W model 29 shooter. And even later we worked on the 454 but I never used one while hunting. I was stuck on the 44 Mag and then later on my own cartridges.
that sure would make a great magazine article
Gary Reeder
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Friday, April 17, 2020, 14:22 (2316 days ago) @ JT
tracing the large primers to small with bushings then to small primers. I have been into handguns all my life and I didn't know all that.
and John, if Diamond Dot ever asks you nicely to clean
Gary Reeder
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Friday, April 17, 2020, 14:24 (2316 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
up your reloading room and you would like to sell any or all of the large primer 454 brass, I will buy all you want to sell. With my 2 favorite revolver cartridges (410 GNR and 429 GNR) using the 454 case, that would sure come in handy.