Anyone still using the older PRE-EASY
Grover Sr
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Monday, April 20, 2020, 19:04 (2312 days ago)
opening Contender frames? I have a guy trying to trade onebto me but I am not sure it would be good for anything but 22 LR or WMR.
I have a 1974 that works fine. It’s not that hard.
WB
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Monday, April 20, 2020, 20:05 (2312 days ago) @ Grover Sr
I use it for my retro barrels. One in .255 Banshee (had to do some lug swapping), .45/410 10” vented, and the .357 Max (on a 8-3/4” old Hot-Shot tube). It’s really fun.
Hey Scotty, show Grover that old
Df
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 06:56 (2312 days ago) @ WB
Flatside you are holding for me
Oh... was that YOURS?!
WB
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 07:47 (2312 days ago) @ Df
It has to be in the vault someplace.
We slab sided almost all our custom TC frames.
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 14:00 (2312 days ago) @ WB
We had several in various gun magazines and several articles on them thru the years. We built 25 guns for Safari Club's 25th year anniversary and they had a speccial give away of serial number 1. I kept #2 and this is it. The frame was about 20 years old when I dug it out of the safe and took a picture of it.I had had it in Africa with me a time or two and it wasn't in the best of shapes by then.
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In '78 and '79 we built some long range Contenders with longer than normal barrels.
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We slab sided most of our TCs and engraved whatever the customer asked for on them.
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We did special TC packages including several barrels and 2 frames. We did a nickel finish on them back then.
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some more slab sided guns
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Lee Jurras' original Howdahs
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Guess I'm just dumb, what is slab siding?
Clyde
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 17:38 (2311 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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buffing the old TC logo off the sides so they are flat
gary reeder
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 23:13 (2311 days ago) @ Clyde
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Contenders
Alcorn
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Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 05:53 (2311 days ago) @ gary reeder
I had HHI limited edition Contender no. HHI87 17, which stood for handgun hunters international 1987 #17. It was a 338 JDJ on a slab sided frame engraved by Ken Hurst. It had a bison on one side and the American flag on the other side. I received it in 1988. Unfortunately it burned when my house burned down in 1991.
ONLY GOOD FOR .22s??
JT
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Monday, April 20, 2020, 21:06 (2312 days ago) @ Grover Sr
WHAT DO YOU THINK WE HAVE BEEN USING ALL THESE YEARS. MY HUNTING CONTENDERS GO WAY BACK AND ARE CHAMBERED IN JD's .257 , 6.5 AND .375 JDJ. WE ALSO USED THEM IN LONG RANGE SILHOUETTING IN .30-30 AND .357 MAGNUM.THEY WORKED THEN AND STILL DO. YES THE EZ OPEN ARE EASIER BUT THE ORIGINALS STILL WORK. MAY NEED A DOUBLE HELPING OF WHEATIES FOR BREAKFAST.
JT I seem to recall someone, maybe JD Jones
Grover Sr
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Monday, April 20, 2020, 22:08 (2312 days ago) @ JT
Recommending a serial number cut off for the hotter calibers. Don't remember what it was.
You're right on the money about that Grover...
Huey
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 02:47 (2312 days ago) @ Grover Sr
Working on memory probably isn't smart on my part. But, believe JD recommended serial numbers above 295,000 for the Hand Cannons.
That doesn't limit the Type 1 Frames to rimfire calibers. Many of my early 10" octagon barrels are still in use.
218 Bee, 44 Magnum, 221 Fireball, etc still work just fine on them.
I believe JDs recommendation revolved around TC moving the pivot point of the opening mechanism than the actual strength of the actiom.
There were four major variations of the Pre-G2 Frames, stopping at Type 4.
frame s/n rec's from SSK
Mark Shick
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 12:34 (2312 days ago) @ Huey
Thanks!!! I knew there was a number...
Huey
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 12:53 (2312 days ago) @ Mark Shick
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most of our 405 based cartridges were developed in the
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 12:48 (2312 days ago) @ Huey
Contender. That would have been in the early 90s so the guns would have been mid to late 80s vintage, serial number 287,000 or somewhere in that serial number range.I was talking a lot to Lee Jurras back in those days and he had his Howdah TCs out in the late 70s and he told me to keep my heavy recoiling calibers to 270,000 or newer.
TC made the 45-70 barrels for the Contender in the early 80s if I remember right. Also the 416 GNR and 450 GNR were developed in the Contender for use in Africa in 1992 and 1993 and they have considerably more recoil than the 45-70. The development of them would have been in '90 or '91.
Back then Kase, Colleen and I would take 3 rifle cases full of guns. No limit back then. I would take a double rifle case and put 6 or 7 handguns in it, plus an Auto Mag or two. No firearm permits required. Back then we had the 416 GNR, 450 GNR, 378 GNR and 338 GNR and used the fields of Africa and Australia for our field testing. I took an Australian Water Buffalo in '94 with the 450 GNR and had no problems. And these were pre-muzzle brake days. On some I had them Mag-Na-Ported but no muzzle brake. I think KDF was the first to come out with muzzle brakes but they were for large caliber rifles. We didn't start building our own brakes until around '95 or '96.
When we developed a new cartridge we ran the loads up until it locked up the gun or opened it on recoil and I don't remember having any drastic problems with the contenders of the day that weren't man made. All of the animals below were taken in '92 and '93 in Africa, plus an Australian Water Buffalo in '94 and a couple of exotics at Tellico Junction in '88 or '89. The big hog was taken with a TC in the serial number range of 270,000 and taken with a Contender in 500 Nitro.
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You built me a 444 Marlin Contender Barrel about 30 years..
Huey
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 12:57 (2312 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
Ago. During that conversation you told me about the development of the 450 GNR. In those days Winchester still made 348 Winchester cases.
Nice, pics, appreciate iui as te the feedback
Grover Sr
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 18:21 (2311 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
This is a 5 digit frame. I want to mainly use it as my 22 LR and 22 WMR (when I find one) frame anyway as I have 3 G2 frames for my GNR calibers and 445 SM.
MY MOST USED FRAMES:
JT
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 21:17 (2311 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
6.5 JDJ 138,000
.257 JDJ 169,000
.30-30 184,000; THESE ALL GO BACK A LONG WAYS
.375 JDJ 289,00
Mine don't have problems with 7GNR.
Gus S.
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Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 11:24 (2312 days ago) @ Grover Sr
And have shot a lot of 44 mag from it too.
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