semi autos
james
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 14:40 (2251 days ago)
I own or have owned a number of single and double action revolvers over the years with a series 70 Gold Cup I bought in 1976 being the one semi auto in my safe... Anyway, I find my interest now focused on semi auto handguns. The photo shows what I now own. Top left is the Gold Cup with a Colt Special Combat 38 Super... S&W 1006- 10mm... Sig P 230
in 380... Colt Defender 45acp.. S&W 439 9mm and Browning Hi Power 9mm... I`ve gone about as far as I can go with revolvers and shooting the big bore`s is not as much fun as it use to be with the 41 Mag as my go to hunting handgun..Some of the younger guys may laugh but you will be what I am in time.. I figure its a natural progression..![[image]](images/uploaded/202006202138285eee81d464967.jpg)
I am with you
Grover Sr
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 14:48 (2251 days ago) @ james
I have am transitioning to more semiautos for carry and only have one large bore 44 DW on hand and one 5"629 loaded with light loads. I have a RIA 1911 9mm, a Star BM, Glock 19 and Taurus G2S that I carry in town. Gonna get 6 Taurus G2c's to hide throughout the house.
Gary, Many years ago I shot my 8 3/8"
james
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 20:10 (2250 days ago) @ Grover Sr
M-27 on a shoot in Pennsylvania that was similar to the combat shoot you described and had a ball... It was for iron sight only and the long barrel 357 was all I had. This was in western PA in the woods behind the range that was shut while we competed... You had to have one foot in a twelve inch square when you shot. The targets were of American game and I really enjoyed it... Bet you will have a "blast"...
John, Your Colt collection is amazing. My
james
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 20:16 (2250 days ago) @ james
first handgun was a series 70 Government (I read a lot of Jeff Cooper) and I may be old fashioned but my 1911`s are all Colt`s....
John just rents those 1911s from some gangbangers
gary reeder
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 21:17 (2250 days ago) @ james
Diamond Dot bakes them some chocolate chip cookies in payment.
NO WONDER I ALWAYS FEEL AND URGE
JT
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 21:38 (2250 days ago) @ gary reeder
TO SHOOT THEM SIDEWAYS.
well, Jim Taylor shoots his upside down
gary reeder
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 22:19 (2250 days ago) @ JT
I haven't seen a target yet. I wonder when shooting a gun upside down it if recoil downward instead of upward? Or gangbanger style, does it recoil to one side? Inquiring minds would like to know.
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This was from living in the Southern Hemisphere
Jim Taylor
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Sunday, June 21, 2020, 05:20 (2250 days ago) @ gary reeder
Everything is upside down there.
SOMETIMES TODAY THE WORLD SEEMS UPSIDE DOWN.
JT
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Sunday, June 21, 2020, 07:36 (2250 days ago) @ Jim Taylor
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I believe it is John. Badly.
Jim Taylor
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Sunday, June 21, 2020, 07:42 (2250 days ago) @ JT
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I BELIEVE THERE IS ONLY ONE THING WHICH
JT
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Sunday, June 21, 2020, 08:56 (2250 days ago) @ Jim Taylor
WILL RIGHT IT. BOB BAER TELLS ME HIS MOTHER ALWAYS SAID: "JESUS IS COMING AND HE IS MAD!"
Reply to Gary's "Inquiring Minds Want To Know" ..
Jim Taylor
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Sunday, June 21, 2020, 07:16 (2250 days ago) @ gary reeder
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I am sure Gary knows ... and I am sure the old gunhands here know also...
Shooting weak hand, gun upside down, pulling the trigger with your little finger ...
You use a 12 o'clock hold instead of a 6 o'clock hold.
The gun recoils down.
You DO NOT use heavy loads. I used .38 Specials with 3 gr. Bullseye and 158 gr. cast bullet .. or my .22 Single Six.
When I was pastoring I had moved from Cave Creek, AZ to Oracle, AZ and taken a new church. One of the members invited my wife and I to their home for supper. While it was preparing the husband asked me if I ever shot guns. I said that I had a few times.
So we go out in his back yard and he sets up some beer bottles about 40 or 50 feet away and says, "Do you think you can hit those?"
I said, "I can try." And I pulled out my gun, held it upside down in my left hand just like in the photo and broke 5 in a row.
The husband put his gun away and we went back in the house and had a quiet meal.
when my shop was just outside Nashville and I was at the
gary reeder
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 21:47 (2250 days ago) @ james
radio station in Nashville I had a helluva combat range on my land. My Dad was head honcho for the plain clothes Pinkertons and arranged it for me to run several law enforcement agencies thru my range. They had to pass to be eligible for a promotion and other goodies.
The course was in heavy woods and started with a 65 yard run uphill before they encountered the first target. There were 25 kill targets and 15 non kill targets. Two shots at each kill target so they had to carry 50 rounds with them. Behind each shooter was a runner that was a safety man. If the shooter missed a target (and they were well hidden in the Tennessee woods at ranges up to 25 yards), the runner yelled "contact" the shooter had 5 seconds to find and kill the target. The shooter had to reload several times (no high cap pistols back in 1978 with the exception of the Browning Hi Power and the model 59 S&W). Most used 1911s or Browning Hi Powers and a few used S&W model 39s. Some used S&W revolvers, mostly model 10s. So a 1911 shooter had to reload 7 times, a Hi Power shooter 4 times the S&W revolver guys 9 reloads. On a reload the shooter had to take cover to reload, usually prone behind a tree.
The course was 300 yards long in a fish hook design. At the end of the course the shooter encountered 4 bad guys all at once. One with a club, one a knife, one an Uzi and the final one a revolver. So the shooter had to take out the baddest of the bad guys by sight in the right order and do it quick.
At the end of the course the shooter had to stop, reload and run back to the starting line. So it was a rough course, but the life size color bad guy targets taught the shooter to look first before pulling the trigger. We ran the course every sunday. On some I would stand in front of 8 or 10 guys that were going to run the course the second time that day, after finishing the first leg of it. I pulled a 45 out and shot into the ground. I told then they were just wounded on their strong arm and would run the course with their left hand (or right if they were a leftie). We put a boxing glove on their strong hand so they had some leverage to help load and reload but pretty much had to do it all one handed. They were taught to cock a 1911 on the heel of their boot. I was called a lot of un-gentlemanly names on that part of the course.
We had a little lady Highway patrol do the course one Sunday. She used a 6 inch Python and had 9 speed loaders on her belt. She aced that course and the second one, never missing a bad guy. She had one good guy killed to keep it from being a perfect run. We had one target that showed an old lady holding a bag of groceries, obviously a no kill target. Then a few targets later the same old lady, except this time she was holding an Uzi under the bag of groceries. Then about 10 targets later the same old lady without the Uzi and the lady highway patrol drilled her between the eyes, not once but twice. I was the runner and I heard the lady mutter "bitch" after she punched the old lady's lights out.
We had some really good times running that range and had several guys give up halfway thru the course, saying they would never have to encounter that type situation. A few fat guys gave up after the 65 yard run up hill before taking the first shot. But all in all I really enjoyed running it. I would run it myself a few times a week just to stay in shape.
The Special Combat's a dandy!
ChrisG
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 15:00 (2251 days ago) @ james
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I HAVE AN UPCOMING CT ENTITLED
JT
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 16:38 (2251 days ago) @ james
" HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND LIKE (LOVE?) THE SEMI-AUTO". YOU TOUCHED ON IT WITH "NOT AS MUCH FUN AS IT USED TO BE." RECOIL=WISE IN THE PAST MY MOST DESIRABLE HANDGUNS IN ORDER WERE SINGLE ACTIONS THEN DOUBLE ACTION SIXGUNS, THEN SEMI-AUTOS. WITH THE CONDITION OF MY HANDS AND WRISTS NOW THIS ORDER IS REVERSED.
I put more rounds through a 9mm 1911 than
ChrisG
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 16:47 (2251 days ago) @ JT
anything else.
SOME FAVORITES
JT
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 16:52 (2251 days ago) @ JT
Wow.
ChrisG
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 17:49 (2251 days ago) @ JT
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Glad to hear you say that John, not glad it is happening
gary reeder
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 19:21 (2250 days ago) @ JT
but glad to see someone else is having to change their way of thinking on their favorite guns.
I am trying to plan one of our combat shoots if they ever open up the national forest again. Our shoot is in an arroyo (ditch for you yankees) with bushes and cactus and stuff growing up each side. The targets are stashed in the bushes on each side and are not visible until you get right on them. Some are 20 yards away, while some are right at your feet. The bottom is deep sand. We run up the arroyo (gully to you southern boys) and shoot at full size picture targets of bad guys and hostage targets. Some of the hostage targets have about 1/3 of the bad guys head visible over the hostage, so your shots have to be placed just right. A dead hostage is a no no. One bad guy is peeking around the edge of a door and you have a max of 1 1/2" of his face to hit.
I brought a couple of my long slides up to the shop recently and after work did some semi fast shooting and boy was I disappointed. At 20 yards my semi rapid fire groups were in the 4 inch range instead of the 2" range that was "normal". This was with 10mm and 45 Longslides. I have said it before but this just enforces it.."growing old isn't for pussies".
I know what you mean John.
Jim Taylor
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Saturday, June 20, 2020, 19:54 (2250 days ago) @ JT
I used to be able to run a single action fairly quickly and accurately at the same time. Now my thumbs and fingers just don't work like that anymore.
For years I never minded carrying a single action as my concealed gun. Not anymore. I just can't get'em running like I used to.
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