talking of ammo below, when i got here this

Gary Reeder
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Saturday, July 11, 2020, 11:05 (2229 days ago)

morning there were people lined up waiting. I had 2 of my guys, Jimmy and Matt behind the counter waiting on folks and 100% of the people were looking for ammo. 2 of the couples were up from Phoenix. They spent hours yesterday hitting all the gun shops in phoenix looking for 380, 38 spl, 9mm and 45. They said none of the shops they went to had any of these calibers.They said some of the shops had some odd ammo like 357 Sig, 6.8 SPC and such. A lady at one of the shops told them the Pistol Parlor in Flag had a lot of ammo so they drove 2 1/2 hours to be here at opening time.They got the ammo they wanted and didn't get ripped off. They paid more than they would have 6 months ago but still didn't get raped. Our cost is now 40% more than it was last year and I don't see it getting any better before the first of the year and really I don't see it getting better at all. The good military/police load from Federal, 124 grain FMJ is running $17 a box of 20. That is higher than it was a year ago but we still have the same mark up we always have.We try not to carry the steel cased ammo as it is so hard on your gun but a lot of folks want it. The only steel case junk we have right now is for an AK-47. And that is a 40 round box for $7.

We pretty much have some of all the handgun ammo, 380, 9mm, 10mm, 40 caliber, 45 and so on but have no idea when it will dry up totally.

If you need ammo , don't waste your time looking for the cheapest you can find as the good stuff may be gone when you get tired of looking for the cheapest. Your family's lives are worth the extra you might spend to get the good stuff. Like John Taffin always says, you can't afford to buy the cheap stuff. Think about it.

Same here Gary. I bought a load of rimfire stuff today...

Huey
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Saturday, July 11, 2020, 11:12 (2229 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Whether or not I needed or will need seems irrelevant. Interestingly enough, it was at the best price I've seen in years.

The really hot 22 LR ammo (40 grn HP @ 1300 fps) stuff well under $8/100. Like you said, buy what you need now. Ammo will likely benefit you more than a few bucks will anyways.

I can't believe how smart I was over the last 40 years.

Winn
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Saturday, July 11, 2020, 11:20 (2229 days ago) @ Huey

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I agree Winn. Never understood the whole....

Huey
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Saturday, July 11, 2020, 11:26 (2229 days ago) @ Winn

I'll buy it when I need it methodology.

You can't find ammo here for any of the traditional defense calibers. I'm figuring rimfire ammo next to go.

Like Gary said, buy it when you find it. I'll add where you can find it too.

Since I am off one I noted that many

WB
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Saturday, July 11, 2020, 12:10 (2229 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Strange things like lead melting pots, reloading progressive rigs, primers etc. are either out of stock, short supply, or at a considerable mark up from normal. Full retail at least. Get it while you can. Folks are preparing for the Marxist revolution coming late Aug-Nov. 2020.

Don’t forget food and TP.

things in this country (I believe) will change drastically

Gary Reeder
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Saturday, July 11, 2020, 13:11 (2229 days ago) @ WB

immediately after the elections. If trump wins, and dear Lord I hope and pray he does, the chips will hit the fan. The Antifa crowd will be out in mass to destroy all that they can along with every other anti America liberal. That will be the time to sit back and let them come to you. And if you don't have your gear ready by then, you may be out of luck.

If Trump loses the libs will do just as they said they would. They will start immediately after Biden, or whoever gets in, running confiscation bills thru and total gun bans. That is just the tip of the iceberg. They will do everything to totally destroy this country and rebuild it as a socialist country. Again Antifa will be roaming the streets looking for any Trump supporters or businesses that supported Trump. I really believe there will be dark days coming in November and if you aren't ready, you have a couple of months to do so. By mid October the shelves will be bare of the items you might need to survive, so do what you can now.

I hope and pray I am totally wrong here on all this and life will go on as normal with a few demonstrations here and there. But my gut tells me differently.

The wife and I have that same gut-feeling.

Rsim
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Saturday, July 11, 2020, 14:05 (2229 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I hang out and help behind the counter at the local LGS. They open @ 10am, 15 mins later the place is packed and the phone rings constantly, mostly for ammo. Gun sales and online pickups number 20-30 a day. I hit the range between the busloads. The beginners class is $39/half hour and they had over 70 last week, mostly new gun buyers who have never shot.

But what tells me the most is how people act and what they say. Fear reigns, it's on everybody's face, except for the old Veterans, retired LEOs and the daily range rats. Most walk-ins know little if anything, but are too proud to listen to good advice. All the regulars come later in the day when the scary folk are in front of the TV. Trump's not great, but the alternative is dark days ahead.

Last Christmas week I was at the range/LGS

Rsim
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Saturday, July 11, 2020, 13:03 (2229 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

in Venice, FL and an ammo shipment came in by FedEx, lots of 9mm, 223/556, stuff I don't reload/handload. I asked the owner how much I could buy. I brought home 5K of S&B 9mm and 2.5K of Frontier 556 at his cost (we do a lot of consignment business). A month later (to the day) the same thing happened, plus I ordered 2 more 500rd. cases of 556.

Back in May, he asked if I wanted to sell some of my ammo at double the price I paid for it back in Dec., I just smiled and and him half a peace sign...he wasn't surprised.

I buy when it's there, I'll always "need" it.

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