I really like this 22....

JD
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 13:08 (2224 days ago)

I really like 22's... As I get older, I find that I like them more and more. Some of them are capable of amazing accuracy, and others are just downright fun to shoot...

I recently purchased a Tikka T1X 22 rifle. I'd read good things about them, so I decided to give one a try. When it arrived, I was very impressed... (I'm a "picky" engineer... My friends use the term "anal" but I know they mean it in a good way... :-) ). It takes a lot to really impress me, and this rifle does. First, it has an easily adjustable great trigger. I adjusted mine to 2.5 pounds; crisp; no over travel. This is the kind of trigger that I've spent several hundred dollars to get on some of my other rifles.... Bolt operates very smoothly. 10 round magazine is ugly, but works really well and feeds smoothly. Stock is synthetic but is well designed and very functional and fits me well. Barrel is medium heavy and threaded so I can use my suppresor. Receiver is both grooved and drilled and tapped for scope mounts.

The biggest thing for me is that this thing can really shoot!!!! Using RWS Target ammo (fairly inexpensive ammo..) this thing will shoot 3/8" five shot groups at 50 yards. My son commented that he just put the cross hair on what he wanted to hit and squeezed the trigger, and he hit it...

While I really like blued steel and walnut, I got to say that I like this rifle!!!!!!

5 rounds at 50 yards....

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Nice shooting, do you have a

TM
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 13:37 (2224 days ago) @ JD

picture of the gun?

No photo right now, but here's a link

JD
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 15:08 (2224 days ago) @ TM

Here is a link to Tikka's web site with photos of the T1X

https://www.tikka.fi/en-us/rifles/tikka-t1x/t1x-mtr

Lots of cheaper rifles will do that.

Sid R
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 13:42 (2224 days ago) @ JD

That's cool, I love a good shooting 22. Nice group. Nice Rifle.
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Marlin Model 39a Golden 1966.

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Marlin model 881 late 80's. First three bringing the cheap Simmons scope to shoot the next group. All shot with cheap winchester 550 or comparable. I have shot better with better ammo. I have other 22's that will do the same. I have a Sears and Robuck made in 1933 single shot that will do it too.

The 881 was a windless 100 day.

Sid R
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 13:43 (2224 days ago) @ Sid R

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Wrong photo with first post.

Sid R
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 13:53 (2224 days ago) @ Sid R

This is the 50 yard for the first post. The first one I posted was 100 yards.[image]

I haven't seen too many that will do 3/8" at 50 yds

JD
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 15:18 (2224 days ago) @ Sid R

I have a fairly big selection of rimfire rifles and have shot dozens more, and I've only seen 2 others that could do sub 3/8" five shot groups at 50 yards... My Anschutz 1517 can do it and my Cooper Model 57 can do it. The Tikka goes for less than $500. The Anschutz runs about $1500, and the Cooper $2500. Some of the CZ's can come close, with selected ammo....

The Tikka rules the roost at even double the pricepoint.

WB
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 17:29 (2224 days ago) @ JD

The CZ is no doubt in the hunt too. An old rattly levergun is not in the same zip code, although on rare occasion you can find one that will do an inch at 50 with ammo it prefers. Most are closer to the 2" at 50 range. That's about what it was designed to do. Plus it's kind of more fun, even if it is not as mechanically accurate. Apples and Oranges, School Buses and Porsche.

Savage are another rare example capable of running with the big boys. They are cheaply made and very tinny but by golly they shoot. I'm not very find of the guns myself but mine's not worth that much to sell so I keep it because it is so silly accurate. I have a M93R17 in .17 HMR (They even sleeved the actions/barrels) that can shoot 1/2 MOA, that's 1" at 200 yds on a windless day and excellent shooting discipline. Less than exceptional days and it's closer to double that but the mechanical accuracy is there. On demand it's easy to shoot 1.5" groups at 200 yds. they just look bigger with those teeny .17 holes. My kids shoot pop cans at 250 off the back deck having fun. Hickory nuts at 100 are pretty easy if you can see them through the scope. Add some wind and the bet is off.

Modern designs promote rigidity in action, and modern barrels are so far improved from yesteryear, that it's astonishing. Remember back in the 70's when a typical centerfire shot 3-4 MOA until you did all the tricks? Weatherby bragged about 3 shots in 1-1/2" at 100 yds., a guarantee. That's almost laughable today. Their sub MOA line promises a 33% improvement over that and delivers even more with tailored ammo.

Rimfire ammo too is in a class not formerly seen. I think technology in manufacturing and chemistry has improved even the cheaper lines. Even the best rimfire rifle is at the mercy of factory produced ammo. Not to mention individual traits.

Just my worthless observations and opinion.

Back when I shot competition with an Anschutz 1813 Super Mat

JD
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 19:19 (2224 days ago) @ WB

Back when I shot competition with an Anschutz 1813 Super Match I was always amazed at the variations in 22 ammo. Even something like Eley Tennex could show big variations in accuracy between different lots. The trick was to find a supplier that had a large supply and buy a box from each lot that he had and test if for accuracy. When you found the best lot then you would order a couple thousand rounds of that lot.. Some of the cheap ammo shot really well, and some of the pricey stuff didn't. Just depends on your gun, but it's still eye opening to try a bunch of ammo through a really accurate rifle and see the big difference...

The .17 HMR ammo is amazing. Hornady is

WB
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 19:44 (2224 days ago) @ JD

My favorite in the 17 gr. Bullet near 2600 fps in rifles, the 14” G2 is only 100 fps less. The CCI and Remington ammo all shoot equally well, even the 20 gr. HP. I’ve never seen a rim fire cartridge shoot differing brands and lots equally well in several different platforms.

The G2 in .17 shoots a like trajectory as several of my hunting GNR calibers and is good practice. Usually I can find ammo for less than $15/50 if I shop for close outs. But it requires way more skill than I currently have to dope it in the wind.

Tikka T1X 22 - what scope

MountainWanderer
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 18:23 (2224 days ago) @ JD

and mounts did you go with? And was that with weighed and sorted ammo (any brand, including RWS Target, will usually show an improvement in a 'target rifle' when so segregated)?

My setup...

JD
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 19:11 (2224 days ago) @ MountainWanderer

I used a DIP picatinny rail mounted on top of the receiver. I have a Vortex Crossfire II 4x-12X scope with adjustable objective in Leupold QRW rings. It's not a high end Vortex scope, but the optics are good and it's not so large that it is out of place. Plus, I had it sitting on my bench looking for a home....

The ammo was not weighed or sorted in any fashion. I have several cases of this RWS Target from 10 years ago when a friend owned a gunshop and I could buy it for $2.50 a box. I didn't have much time at the range (I was helping my son sight in his AR) so I just brought that ammo to sight the rifle in with. It is not a premium ammo, but usually shoots reasonable well in most of my guns and is subsonic for my suppressor. I do have Eley Club and Tennex, as well as RWS R-50 and RWS subsonic hollowpoints that I want to try in this rifle when I can get to the range.

Thanks JD for sharing your setup

MountainWanderer
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Thursday, July 16, 2020, 19:52 (2224 days ago) @ JD

I'm glad you are having good luck with your Vortex scope. I've friends who've had great luck with the brand and others who wish they'd never, ever heard the name. Nice that it has AO.
I heartily concur with your and others' experience with rimfire ammo - varies wildly and lots of the same brand can be even worse, price not withstanding!

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