you gun people in California will be getting

Gary Reeder
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Friday, September 04, 2020, 11:51 (2173 days ago)

even more screwed soon with the new micro-stamping law that goes to the Govs desk today.


Californians Will Have Fewer Handguns Available to Them Thanks to New Microstamping Law
by S.H. BLANNELBERRY on SEPTEMBER 3, 2020


Sailing through the California Senate last Friday, a microstamping bill now heads to the desk of anti-gun Gov. Gavin Newsom to be signed into law.

This is bad news for gun owners in The Golden State.

Per the legislation (AB 2847), starting on July 1, 2022, all new handguns sold in the state will need to be microstamped in one place on the interior of the handgun (current law requires two imprinting locations).

Additionally, for every new gun added to the state’s roster of approved handguns, three firearms that do not meet the requirements for what the state calls a “safe” handgun must be removed by the Dept. of Justice.

Assemblyman David Chiu (D-San Francisco), the author of AB 2847, said the legislation “would require gunmakers to incorporate microstamping technology — to imprint microscopic characters that identify a handgun’s make, model, and serial number on the casing of every bullet that is fired. Having this information is critical to solving countless crimes involving firearms, as well as to reducing the black market for guns.”

AB 2847 is problematic for a number of reasons as Mark Oliva, director of Public Affairs for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, noted in an email to GunsAmerica.

“This microstamping bill is doubling down an a technology the state knows is unworkable and is easily defeated by criminals,” explained Oliva.

“The state’s Department of Justice hasn’t even begun to weigh in on how this will be enforced and regulated. There’s no formula for which guns would come off the approved roster and why. This is nothing short of a slow-rolling gun ban that will eventually eliminate Californian’s Second Amendment rights,” he continued.

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Since the original microstamping law was certified in 2013, no new semiautomatic handguns have been added to the state’s roster. Microstamping has always been a scheme to reduce the number of self-defense options Californians have when it comes to protecting themselves and their families.

That doesn’t change under AB 2847. In fact, it only gets worse.

By saying to the industry that new pistols only need one microstamping location as opposed to two, lawmakers are hoping gun makers will play ball and start selling new handguns equipped with microstamping.

If this happens, the Dept. of Justice can start pulling “unsafe” guns off the market, as mentioned in a 3 to 1 ratio, while also criminalizing the sale or manufacture of those “unsafe” guns.

Law-abiding citizens caught selling or transferring a once legal but newly designated “unsafe” gun that has been removed from the roster could then be held criminally liable.

What makes a pistol or a revolver unsafe in California?

31910. As used in this part, “unsafe handgun” means any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, for which any of the following is true:

(a) For a revolver:

(1) It does not have a safety device that, either automatically in the case of a double-action firing mechanism, or by manual operation in the case of a single-action firing mechanism, causes the hammer to retract to a point where the firing pin does not rest upon the primer of the cartridge.
(2) It does not meet the firing requirement for handguns.
(3) It does not meet the drop safety requirement for handguns.
(b) For a pistol:

(1) It does not have a positive manually operated safety device, as determined by standards relating to imported guns promulgated by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
(2) It does not meet the firing requirement for handguns.
(3) It does not meet the drop safety requirement for handguns.
(4) Commencing July 1, 2022, for all centerfire semiautomatic pistols that are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 32015, it does not have a chamber load indicator.
(5) Commencing July 1, 2022, for all centerfire or rimfire semiautomatic pistols that are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 32015, it does not have a magazine disconnect mechanism if it has a detachable magazine.
(6) (A) Commencing July 1, 2022, for all semiautomatic pistols that are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 32015, it is not designed and equipped with a microscopic array of characters used to identify the make, model, and serial number of the pistol, etched or otherwise imprinted in one or more places on the interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol, and that are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm is fired.
Alan Gottlieb, Founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, told GunsAmerica via email, “The real intent of this legislation is to make fewer guns available to the public for self-defense by limiting the number of models and making others more expensive.”

“Not if, but when Governor Newsom signs it into law it will allow for a new legal challenge in court,” he added.

SAF, along with other gun-rights groups, had sued the state before over its microstamping mandate but lost on a technicality. Looks like they’ll get another chance to set things straight. Stay tuned for updates. The battle over microstamping is heating up once again!

California Wake Up!

Wayne
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Friday, September 04, 2020, 16:33 (2173 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

There are a lot of gun owners there, why do they keep voting these ass holes in? I have no sympathy for them except the dumocrats try to push their crap on the rest of the country. Sorry about the rant just my 2 cents.

Because like Massachusetts and some

John W
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Friday, September 04, 2020, 16:40 (2173 days ago) @ Wayne

Other states we’re outnumbered by the citiots.

They have U-Haul Rentals in both states...

Huey
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Friday, September 04, 2020, 16:43 (2173 days ago) @ John W

As long as the working class supports it with taxes, they can continue it.

california doesn't care about guns. They just want

Gary Reeder
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Friday, September 04, 2020, 16:46 (2173 days ago) @ Huey

you gone. They figure if they put enough burdens on your gun rights and pressure on you and your money, you will leave California and they will have their little Utopia.

When is the San Andreas fault going to come through?

Winn
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Saturday, September 05, 2020, 15:35 (2172 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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It woukd be nice if my vote counted as 17 million

DinCA
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Friday, September 04, 2020, 18:46 (2173 days ago) @ John W

but it doesn't. I'm not going to turn tail and run just because I can't get the new whizbang pistol or enjoy a whole host of other liberties much of the country enjoys. Things will likely not get better but they will most certainly not if everybody gives up the fight and runs away.

California

Clint H
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Friday, September 04, 2020, 20:35 (2173 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I could never understand why certain states can carve up our Second Amendment rights. Every state agreed to abide by the constitution and its amendments when they joined the United States. Federal laws are supposed to apply to every state the same. laws apply to every state so it’s really hard for me to understand how they can hack and carve up and decide what those rights mean in each individual state. I did see however that the Supreme Court knocked down their Hi capacity magazine ban.
Maybe one day the supreme court will explain to California what “shall not be infringed means”.

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