Lever Action 44 Special Rifles...
Huey
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Saturday, November 14, 2020, 13:55 (2101 days ago)
JT mentioned these a few days ago. Did a bit of looking around and Uberti still makes the 1866 and 1873 Replicas.
Was surprised when I found some in stock at a few dealers.
I’d love a 73. Saw a 20” at a dealer the other day asking
WB
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Saturday, November 14, 2020, 14:25 (2101 days ago) @ Huey
$950 used. Didn’t see the caliber. I’d break tradition for one in .357 or .44 Spec.
That is a pretty good price these days. The
JT
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Saturday, November 14, 2020, 14:50 (2101 days ago) @ WB
.44 Special rarely ever shows up on the used gun rack. The last time I really stumbled on something special was well I took a Marlin .44 Magnum off the rack to look at it closer and saw the barrel was marked .41 Magnum. I headed to the checkout with my checkbook in hand quickly. Nearly 20 years ago Taylors and Company announced a Model 92 replica at the Shot Show. I ordered one however it never materialized.
About 40 years ago I saw a little one-inch ad in the Handgun Hunters International club paper, The Sixgunner. It basically just said Custom .44 Specials. I contacted what was then a relatively unknown gunsmith, however that would soon change.
Andy Horvath of Ohio sent me two of his personal .44 Specials. One was a Ruger Old Model .357 Magnum he had converted and the other held a very special interest for me as it was a Model 1892 chambered in .44 Special. Andy had purchased a .44-40 Winchester as a parts gun, however it was in such good shape he decided to convert it to .44 Special. I had a grand time shooting that levergun. When it went back along with its companion sixgun, I also sent a Ruger .357 Old Model with which Andy proceeded to produce the first “L’il Gun”. Andy turned it into a beautiful custom 4” bright blued, round-butted .44 Special and I featured it in an article along with several other L’il Guns which followed it. Andy has been busy ever since. When Hollywood saw my article they called me and wanted to use my L’il Gun for a movie. I said no way as I have seen how you folks treat guns, however I put them in touch with Andy and he made several L’il Guns for the movie as well as the two main actors, Don Johnson and Mickey Rourke. The less said about the movie they were in, the better.
I have an old Marlin Camp 9 carbine I think I'm gonna trade
WB
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Saturday, November 14, 2020, 16:47 (2101 days ago) @ JT
off soon to sponsor my 1873 fetish. I am putting together a couple more AR's too to capitalize on the lunacy, that should do it. I'm going to go back and look at that carbine.
I also have two mid-late 1960's 1894 in .30-30 that are very crusty that I need to get out and clean up.
Don't laugh but here in Mass
John W
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 03:38 (2101 days ago) @ WB
I saw a Camp Carbine tricked out for sale at $850
Prices on such are very regional.
WB
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 07:25 (2101 days ago) @ John W
Mine is the more typical 9mm that uses S&W 59 mags. It's a good gun, blow-back action. I figure since I no longer shoot it or have much interest in it I can swap it for something else that toots cool air under my skirt.
My only worry is that with the official demise of Marlin, this will indeed be a rare model. Collector interest will dictate if this is about what these will be running or become uber valuable. If I had all the prizes I traded off in my lifetime...
If it was a .45 Camp Carbine I'd keep it! I have an AR-9 that is the tits using Glock magazines. Have you seen asking prices on stainless Ranch Mini-14's!!!
It is more to the fact that
John W
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 08:57 (2100 days ago) @ WB
the gun and its high cap mags were grandfathered in the state.
I put a 9mm Camp Carbine on gunbroker
Ray
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 12:14 (2100 days ago) @ John W
with a Buy it Now price of $800 and it went for that price within hours. It had one original magazine. That was a couple months ago. They seem to be getting some attention.
Saw a Camp 9 in a LGS Wednesday for something
ChrisG
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 06:20 (2101 days ago) @ WB
over $600.
I think my #1choice in an 1873 would be a 44 Special...
Huey
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Saturday, November 14, 2020, 15:49 (2101 days ago) @ WB
I know they can be picky about O.A.L. Right now I'm pretty happy with my Ruger #1 in 44 Magnum.
It really shoots 44 Special great and I can use just about any bullet.
I'd jump on a .38-40, and a .44-40 is ok.
WB
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Saturday, November 14, 2020, 16:44 (2101 days ago) @ Huey
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Just wondering, why 44 special instead of 44 mag?
Grover Sr
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Saturday, November 14, 2020, 17:58 (2101 days ago) @ Huey
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I've looked over the 1873 in 44 Magnum. I just don't think..
Huey
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Saturday, November 14, 2020, 18:10 (2101 days ago) @ Grover Sr
I'd feel warm and fuzzy about that much pressure in the 1873 Action. I've read about loading the 44 Special to 20-22,000 psi and that would be perfectly fine with me.
As for me. I carry 44 special handguns mainly. So
Brant
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Saturday, November 14, 2020, 18:37 (2101 days ago) @ Huey
I like having a long gun that is sighted in with same ammo. I have 2 model 92 Rossi leverguns. One feeds the special rounds fine, the other has hiccups. So I have it sighted for magnum ammo. I would be perfectly happy shooting deer with the 44 special.
Brant I had a Rossi Model 92 .44 Magnum
JT
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 10:51 (2100 days ago) @ Brant
Cut back to 16-1/4"and have made it a dedicated .44 Special levergun. The action length allows the use of Keith bullets in the .44 Special.
Huey I have shot the 1873 .44 Magnum quite a bit
JT
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 10:44 (2100 days ago) @ Huey
But only with "standard" .44 Magnum level loads. I would not push it at all. Brian Pearce also did an important column pointing out just because Uberti chambered the Model 1873 in .44 Magnum it did not mean there .45 Colt Model 73 could be loaded heavy. I also enjoy shooting my 1866 .44 Special with .44 Russian loads however it is necessary to seat the bullet out far enough to approximate the OAL of .44 Special loads.
Agreed!!! I'd not assume the 45 Colt could be hot rodded...
Huey
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 12:47 (2100 days ago) @ JT
I've got the 44 Special article somewhere.
Right now I'm going to start experimenting with the Winchester 92 in 44-40. It's strength is well documented. Even so, will stay 30k psi and under.
IF you have a Lyman Loading Manual from
JT
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 14:09 (2100 days ago) @ Huey
The 1950s take a look at some of the loads he give for the .44-40/Winchester Model 92. More powerful than the .44 Magnum
Quite true JT
Sid R
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Monday, November 16, 2020, 07:58 (2099 days ago) @ JT
I know a man that specializes in 44/40's in Marlin 1894's and gets very hot 44 mag numbers.
Grover Sr: this is one of those if you understand no
JT
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Sunday, November 15, 2020, 10:39 (2100 days ago) @ Grover Sr
Explanation is necessary and if you don't understand no explanation is possible. But I will try to explain in just a few words. Nostalgia, History, Keith, Skelton, and maybe just plain stubbornness. I am planning on having one of my replica Model 92 Winchester .44-40s converted to .44 Special by setting the barrel back, re-chambering it to the Special Special and cutting the barrel to 16-1/4 inches. Will I gain anything by changing from .44-40, another cartridge I really like, love, appreciate, desire? Probably not, however I just like the idea of having a Model 92 in .44 Special.
Thankn s JT, I underdtand now
Grover Sr
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Monday, November 16, 2020, 08:20 (2099 days ago) @ JT
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