Reeder Custom Guns - Anyone know anything about the shortlived "White" ML

rifles? I ran across one in nice shape for cheap. It's a later "Lightning" model in stainless and painted wood stock. It says ".504" caliber. On the web and their old web articles they do not address this caliber's relation to "modern" sabot or normal in-line .50 cal. guns.

I have a good supply of plastic belted bullets in .50 cal. I'd buy it if I thought it would shoot them. Been looking at Knight's (not the ones requiring plastic adapters) and that CVA Optima V2 .50 cal. pistol. That's more like my style. Give me a holster or some ammo and I march off to go buy a gun to fit it.

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Only seen one White muzzle loader. It was a 45 cal that shot a big long conical.
Here is a link to a place that makes some.

https://www.muzzleloading-bullets.com/shop/

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Well, it was not obvious to me but I finally figured it out. Most ML in .50 are actually .500" groove diameter.

"It should be obvious that the DOC-designed .451 bore is merely a modern .458 barrel with 1-20 twist and .035″ grooves. Likewise the White .410, which is a modern .416 barrel with 1-16 twist and .035 grooves. The .504 is a modern .512 barrel with 1-24 twist and .004 grooves."

The .504" is the most narrow dimension, the largest "pin" gauge that would fit in his .512" bore. They use soft bullets that upset to fill the bore or sabots. His initial notes speak of his fascination with the Whitworth system. I can see now.

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I think White was the original inline ML.

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You can call doc ( gary ) white at 435 722 2525 and ask him anything you want to know about the white muzzleloader he’s been involved with them for years I built barrels for him back in the late 70s he is an actual doctor and practices here in Roosevelt he lives just down the road from me about 5 miles his email is doc@Whitemuzzleloading.com.

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I have some fun things I want to try. My roots go back to ML, actually cap & ball revolvers. We talked our parents into getting us 1858 Remingtons for our 14th Christmas. It's not like it was a real gun or anything. LOL Boy were they surprised!

I'll email him with some intriguing questions. Many thanks!

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Anyone know anything about the shortlived "White" ML

Think they were meant for some big conicals

So this is why they take "special" bullets.

White ML

May have to find me one of those Whites

They are still in very limited production

White muzzleloaders

Cool, I'm going to try and trade for one

Been watching some 1858s and 1851s on Gb