Almost free guns....

WB
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Saturday, November 21, 2020, 05:53 (2094 days ago)

Jim has posted about some really cheap or almost free rigs that pass through his place. Most of the time they need TLC, that’s why they are so economical. Something is wrong and others gave up. I too have a soft spot for three legged dogs and one eye’d old cats. I can appreciate a challenge.

This “Raptor” (now Mossberg) bolt gun in .270 was given to me. The front action stock bolt hole was totally blown. So the bedding was trash in the horrific cheap stock. It needed a “bushing” glassed in place for the bolt to once again pinch and hold the action in the stock. But even then you can’t have it wallow around. That’s what broke it, with over tightening to try and compensate.

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The way over size lug area needed a double helping of glass to perfect bed the action.

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I trimmed and tweaked, cold tacked the bushing in place with slow JB weld aligning perfectly with the off centered hole in the action. Another day to cure.
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Projects like these you have to get them in your head start to finish before you do the glass, because it’s basically forever. Almost. The two points of concern next are the front lug bedding and that front of stock bedding point. I like a floating barrel initially and hold that bed point in reserve just in case. Tape can give you just enough clearance.

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Never spare the “release agent”! You’ll never be sorry over too much, just the other way...

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Prep and mental planning is everything. I want the action to perfectly bed with zero pressure or stresses with the action bolts tight, just holding it in the perfect bed, lug mirror fitted into its place to absorb recoil and held a bit up to let that barrel vibrate. I don’t want anything touching it. Not unless it does better with a little pressure, to be determined later.

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It’s not pretty at first. I went ahead and added a bit of black dye. No one will ever see it but it just made me feel better. Now I very carefully bedded the back into place, tightened the back action screw, and set the front lug to bed just like I want it. Later I’ll pull it out and re-drill the front action screw hole through the glass so I can insert the front screw. More waiting, we’ll forget about it till Monday.

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Remember, this is fun!

I enjoy messing with 'em .....

Jim Taylor
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Saturday, November 21, 2020, 07:53 (2094 days ago) @ WB

It's the experience ... the "journey" if you will ... not necessarily the end result that is worthwhile. Though it is always satisfying when it works out well.

The Kahr .45 ACP I cleaned up and then gave away is being used and the person who go says he really likes it. Easy to carry concealed and works well for him.

That was pleasant to hear.

The Mosin M44 had 2 barrel bands that held on the top covering wood and held the barrel down against the stock. Yesterday I relieved the stock and floated the barrel. It was touching at least 2 places on the bottom and one on the side.

While I was at it I turned the barrel band completely off so the front sight/bayonet band now is basically the same as the majority of the barrel.

Not sure it will help but we will see.

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I wish someone would make a clamp on front sight base

WB
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Saturday, November 21, 2020, 08:31 (2094 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

sort of a universal thing. (They do for shotguns) That would help so many modified guns. They'd make a mint off varied sight heights and types. I see a flame throwing 16" in your future. They make some type of scope base. I know one that replaces the rear sight. May the force be with you beating THOSE pins out. But it would make a cool "Scout" rig. We did that with a fantastically well made Steyr 1891 Argentine 7.65 Mauser. Used an old 3X Lobo scope and mount. Shot fantastic. We also rebarreled it to 7x57. The package was light, handy (even with the straight bolt handle and standard military safety), and accurate, with many deer to it's credit since.

I made one once.

Jim Taylor
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Saturday, November 21, 2020, 08:47 (2094 days ago) @ WB

I used a small hose clamp and a strip of metal the correct width. It worked fine to let me know how the gun shot. Tho it wasn't pretty.

I did that once too, but it was to determine

WB
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Saturday, November 21, 2020, 09:13 (2094 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

how tall a sight I needed. Ramp + sight = good. I took an old No.4 MKI mismatch with a headspace issue and finished the sporterization. The bolt heads are numbered, I researched it and got the next tighter sized head and it restored the shooting. Before it was separating case heads on the second loading. I cut the barrel back to 16" and ordered the correct steel Lyman ramp and front bead sight. I had my Gunsmith silver solder the front back on and he spot blued it. It was one of the best little projects and truck guns I ever did. A historic 10-shot .303 carbine with ghost ring sights I could see through. Then I sold it!???

It was still pretty heavy at 7 lbs. The Lee Enfield is made from steel and will never be a lightweight. I wish I had it back. I did the same thing to a Swiss Schmidt Ruben straight pull that had been rechambered in the 1960's to .308 Win. What a Goober I am for letting those neat rigs go.

You might get some inspiration, it was Loewe not Steyr

WB
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Saturday, November 21, 2020, 11:38 (2094 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

They are fantastic quality. The 7.65 can be made from 06 brass. It was almost new when we began messing with it. A remnant of the pre-68 days. Bought at Sears for $18 and put back for lack of easy factory ammo. Norma ammo was $35, half of what the gun was worth in the mid 80’s.

We got dies but it swelled the case web, funky headspace from new? Expensive cases didn’t last long. We had a M98 7mm barrel laying around so the Gunsmith was summoned. I think it turned out well. It has a headcount of (6) Whitetails my friend just text’d and said. A custom Rigby Scout if you will!

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