Vintage .30 Herett

WB
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 09:21 (2068 days ago)

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This advertisement has inspired me for decades. Steve Herrett, an old running buddy of Bob Milek gone too soon. I think he passed of a heart attack? They were doing unheard of things with handguns and really threw gas on the handgun hunting realm. I thought of mimicking the gun in the add and one day trying Pronghorn myself. The one pictured is a very early 70's piece with a 1.3X Lobo scope. The later 3X was better but not by any modern standards. I personally found the Bushnell Phantom 2.3x much better and the early TC 1" round body and railed 3X as good as any modern scope today. So where to you jump in on a classic rig re-do? I think Steve in the photos is sporting the 1" body prototypes. Note the sexy full length forend. He was Herrett's grips you know.

The little .30 Herett, if you have never worked with it, is a pure delight. It's capable of so much more than a normal .30-30 in the same platform. Crazy, how efficient you can make something by changing the combustion chamber shape. Even Gary's wonderful .30 GNR which is the maxed out version of a elongated .30 Herrett having a 100% increase in capacity is doing good to garner 15% increase in performance for the trouble. But sometimes you need that, and it's capable of heavier bullets by comparison which greatly enhances the performance. Say 165 gr. bullets in the .30 GNR at the same speed as the Herrett's 125 gr.

I need to get another .30 Herett barrel just to have, maybe put some vintage glass on it. Recoil is about like a .357 Revolver and it genuinely is a 200 yd. deer or coyote gun. Shooting a 1" 3-shot 100 yd. group is as easy as you make it. Sounds light for hogs but guys are busting them all over with the .300 AAC that mimics the Herrett in a carbine. Nothing new under the sun.

Thanks for posting that picture. It brings back some good memories of dreams and hopes.

I shoot

Paul
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 09:36 (2068 days ago) @ WB

90gr XTP's out of my 10 inch. Super accurate

Back when you could get H4227 that was gold

steve todd
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 09:37 (2068 days ago) @ WB

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Steve 4227 is still available, just hard to find

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 13:27 (2068 days ago) @ steve todd

we got a few cans of it recently as a back order and it lasted about 2 hours. Also remember H4227 is the same powder as IMR 4227 and AA4227.

I was talking about the pre-merger

steve todd
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 16:29 (2068 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

The gold color H4227, a little slower than IMR4227 which is black.

my burn rate chart shows them back to back.

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 17:00 (2068 days ago) @ steve todd

The companies would just be asking for a lawsuit putting 2 powders that are different with the same number, like 4227. I have interchanged them for years with no signs of any difference.

Still have my old 10" bull barrel...

Huey
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 10:21 (2068 days ago) @ WB

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the 30 herrett never had it so good

Mark
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 11:30 (2068 days ago) @ WB

The popularity of the 300 blackout has led to several bullet
manufacturer's producing excellent bullets that expand at the lower velocities of the blackout.

I wonder how some of the newer powders would work in the 30 herrett? The only Data i Can find is old and doesnt list any new powders.

Agreed...CFE Black is almost magical in the 7.62x39mm...

Huey
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 12:15 (2068 days ago) @ Mark

Which is basically a rimless 30 Herrett.

What is the most useful powder for the 30 Gnr?

Derek
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 16:26 (2068 days ago) @ Huey

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I don't load for the 30 GNR, but Hodgdon Leverevolution...

Huey
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 17:00 (2068 days ago) @ Derek

Would be my choice probably. It works so well in the 30-30, 30-30 Ackley and 300 Savage. It adds an easy 150 fps in those calibers.

Thanks Huey, forgot about that one

Derek
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 17:51 (2068 days ago) @ Huey

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Derek, I haven't tried Leverevolution in pistol length...

Huey
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 18:12 (2067 days ago) @ Derek

Barrels. It may or may not post the same velocity increases.

My barrel likes h322 but there are a lot

gary reeder
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 23:21 (2067 days ago) @ Derek

of new powders out there that I haven't tried.

before you praise the 300 Black Out too much, remember

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 13:24 (2068 days ago) @ Mark

it is a big rip off of J.D. Jones 300 Whisper. J.D. developed it probably 30 years ago and the assholes at AAC blatantly stole it from J.D. and changed the name. I have had a couple of my calibers stolen so I know how it feels and we will never sell a 300 Black Out in my gun shop.

I agree, but can't throw rocks I don't suppose...

Huey
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 14:14 (2068 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I've added two 275 Rigby Rifles in the last few years. It was the exact same thing.

Ditto on the 38-55 Winchester. Originally the 38-50 Ballard (I believe). But, Winchester renamed it and claimed it for their own.

Even the famous 7mm Remington Magnum was originally the 7mm Reynolds from Bob Reynold's shop in Tyler, Texas.

I'm not sure if I went thru all my calibers I'd be innocent. I even remember when the 6.5 Grendel was the 6.5x39 Wildcat.

I do agree with the commercial bullet offerings, which I believe was his point. I use bullets built for the 300 Whisper/Blackout in my 307 GNR and they work great.

Yes! The long rakish ojive 110-125 is perfect for Herrett

WB
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 14:36 (2068 days ago) @ Huey

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I have a 14” herrett on my g2. Fun gun!

Drdougrx
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 11:57 (2068 days ago) @ WB

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My 300 GNR is a great deer getter too

Charlie Beebe
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Thursday, December 17, 2020, 13:19 (2068 days ago) @ WB

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