Small Game-Varmint revolvers and other guns...

John W
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Saturday, January 09, 2021, 19:09 (2044 days ago)

Hello Everyone:

After reading some chapters in Al Goerg's work I started to think about handgun hunting for the most commonly available game: small game and varmints.

I was thinking about this when I was out in the field now that all of our deer seasons will be closed until the fall of 2021( I do hope it will be better). As a rule I carry two guns when I am handgunning small game and varmints during the winter months.

Usually on my side is a Ruger Single Six in 22 WRM that Gary did the PPP job on. It turned a mediocre revolver into a serious small game getter. I will confess that it is the ringneck pheasant that has fallen to this gun more than any other game. I have found that Hornady Critical Defense ammo shoots very well out of it.

The main gun that I carry is the TC Contender with one of two barrels.

A 10 inch 22 K Hornet that Gary rechambered for me. It is light and handy as well as a potent round for the size of the gun.

The other barrel is a Super 14 in 22 WRM with a red dot sight on it. I know some hate red dots but for my short range shooting it is fine and dandy. Also it works well for night hunting. Here in good ole Massachusetts the laws allow predator hunting at night but no artificial light. So moonlight and snow cover allow you to an attempt at things like the pesky coyote.

But there are times it would be nice to carry just one gun afield.

Al hunted with some specialty revolvers such as a SW K 22 rechambered to the 22 Harvey K Chuk round . Besides some large game taken he did hunt some small game with that scoped revolver.

Al was ahead of his time in many ways and I can see that with his use of a scoped revolver on small game.

This has me thinking a bit.

What would be a great small game/varmint revolver? Any thoughts?

Gary could make you a .224 Kay-Chuck easily

WB
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Saturday, January 09, 2021, 19:28 (2044 days ago) @ John W

The Single six would be an easy platform. Literally just a cylinder and window as big as possible and a .22 K-hornet reamer. You cut the brass back below the bullet ojive (about 1/2 the normal K-Hornet neck) to get the K-Chuck.

Using special 30 gr. bullets I worked my way up to 2150 fps. The 45 gr. ran out around 1750 fps where it got sticky in my K-22. I got 1.5" 50 yd. groups with it using a 2.5X Bushnell Phantom.

In that case a normal .22 WMR will push a 45 gr. at 1350-1400 fps from a Single-six 6.5". I've not checked the new 30 gr. faster versions. They are factory rated at 2250 fps from a 24" rifle. I figure maybe 1600-1650. 33 gr. LR CCI Stingers get 1400 fps.

I am still thinking of the 327 Federal

John W
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Saturday, January 09, 2021, 20:29 (2044 days ago) @ WB

I kind of envision a Ruger Single Six with the PPP treatment and minimum cylinder gap. Drilled at tapped for a Burris 2x scope.

Thinking that the 7 1/2 barrel would be ideal.

Great choice, load from .22 RF to .357 Mag. levels.

WB
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Saturday, January 09, 2021, 20:54 (2044 days ago) @ John W

A .327 will actually shoot a .32 ACP usually. The .32 ACP is actually just a teeny rim .32 S&W for the semi-auto.

I always thought Gary's idea of a .38 Super in the single six a fantastic idea. My .40 S&W version was purely personal. I did not get him to add D&T topstrap. I do have a non-drill clamp Single-six mount for the Phantoms.

I find the usefulness and understand having different

Asa
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Saturday, January 09, 2021, 21:36 (2044 days ago) @ WB

calibers. I do have a Single-Six in 9mm that is pretty handy and I reload different velocities in different calibers. But to me, it all depends on what you are needing/wanting, the best in my mind for small game is the 22 be it S,L,or LR. By the time you get to the point that you need something bigger, then you need something bigger. Saying that I would like a built 25ACP Single-Six and maybe a 255 Banshee one day.

30 Carbine Blackhawk?

steve todd
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Saturday, January 09, 2021, 21:22 (2044 days ago) @ John W

Kinda boring i suppose, but have Gary work it over and get an additional cylinder in 300GNR.

.327, 7 shot, 6.5”

Brent Clark
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Sunday, January 10, 2021, 09:28 (2043 days ago) @ John W

think about the 321 GNR. It beats the 327

gary reeder
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Sunday, January 10, 2021, 15:35 (2043 days ago) @ John W

soundly. A 5 shot 321 GNR on a single six would make a great small to medium game handgun. Al Goerg would love it.

Scott, My S&W Kay Chuck with 8 3/8" gave

james
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Sunday, January 10, 2021, 13:48 (2043 days ago) @ WB

me an average of 1658fps shooting 35gr V-max over 8.0grs of 2400 while 9.0grs of 2400 averaged 1754fps compared to a CCI 40gr 22mag at 1402fps from 6" S&W M-48.... However, I just shot this group off hand at 21ft from my 6" S&W using Winchester 40gr JHP ammo...[image]

You mention the Hornady Critical Defense ammo.

ChrisG
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Monday, January 11, 2021, 10:03 (2042 days ago) @ John W

I did some completely non scientific (i.e. for fun) ballistics testing with it over the summer out of a 6 inch model 48, using watermelon. The CD ammo would regularly explode small melons. The standard ammo never would, would just zip straight through.

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