Nose to Nose Test in a Vise

Jim Taylor
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Thursday, February 11, 2021, 14:47 (2011 days ago)

I took a Barry's Plated 230 gr. 45ACP hardball and put it nose to nose in a vise with a commercial jacketed 230 gr. 45ACP hardball.

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I put a small flat on the nose of each bullet so they would 'mate' up fairly close.

The jacketed bullet penetrated and deformed the plated bullet and basically did not harm it. The jacketed bullet could be loaded and fired with no problems.

I have done this in years past with a bullet of known hardness when checking some that I wasn't sure if were harder or softer.

Yeah, but I've had great success with Berry's Bullets...

Huey
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Thursday, February 11, 2021, 14:56 (2011 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

They are soft, but great in real life applications.

Their Hybrid Bullets are tops in the 45 ACP, 10mm/40 S&W and 9mm. I buy them 1,000 at a time...or used to!

I did not mean to imply anything was wrong with them

Jim Taylor
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Thursday, February 11, 2021, 15:07 (2011 days ago) @ Huey

I use a lot of them. Shooting things that bleed they can work quite well. Excellent feeding of a hardball and often "riveting" when they penetrate something.

I was just comparing the hardness.

I understand completely. Good info all around...

Huey
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Thursday, February 11, 2021, 15:13 (2011 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I've shot thousands without issue. I've seen what Gary was talking about too.

People try to roll crimp them in revolvers and it cuts through the plating.

They come with directions and Heaven forbid people actually reading them. I also use their Wadcutters in my 38 Special. I seat long, but taper crimp them.

we have had 2 guns that I know of to blow

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, February 11, 2021, 15:04 (2011 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

the barrel due to plated bullets. The bullet companies tell the buyer not to run them past a certain speed. Past that they tend to shed the jacket and let the lead core continue out the barrel. The jacket lodges in the barrel with each shot after that and soon the barrel is clogged up with jackets, then the next shot blows the barrel in half. But we have had 2 guns that I know of come into the shop with split barrels. We cut them in half and one had 8 rounds in it almost welded together. The other was so mashed up we couldn't tell how many were in there but it was a lot. I won't shoot plated bullets in any of my guns, period.

Yessir. With plated bullets pay attention to their limits

Jim Taylor
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Thursday, February 11, 2021, 15:08 (2011 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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