Laser Sight
TM
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Monday, March 29, 2021, 10:12 (1964 days ago)
Seems recently a couple of "mass shootings" have taken place indoors with multiple people at each location. Should someone have to return fire in a crowded situation
any thoughts on if a laser sight would be beneficial in that situation to precisely see where the bullet is apt to go. I am considering putting a set of the laser grips on my Ruger SR1911.
Best thing is training how to shoot in crowded situations.
Jim Taylor
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Monday, March 29, 2021, 11:48 (1964 days ago) @ TM
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Agree completely.
RonE
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Monday, March 29, 2021, 14:05 (1964 days ago) @ Jim Taylor
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For me laser sights are horrible.
WB
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Monday, March 29, 2021, 15:06 (1964 days ago) @ TM
I struggle as to which to use, a sight picture or look downrange for the laser. It just does not work for me. I have one little pocket 9mm that has a light and laser. The light is more beneficial to me in the dark. It hits pretty much center beam anyway up close, and it's blinding. The laser dot is always a couple inches off for some reason. Adjust it dead on then later it's off to one side a little. I gave up on it.
But I like the light.
The villain is not going to worry in a crowded room. Training would be very interesting for sure.
Same with me when I've tried them. I should
ChrisG
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Monday, March 29, 2021, 16:33 (1964 days ago) @ WB
give it another try though.
Plus .. the laser sight does not guarantee a hit ..
Jim Taylor
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Monday, March 29, 2021, 16:29 (1964 days ago) @ TM
Never try to accomplish with technology what can only come through proper training.
plus in a split second situation your eyes will find the
Gary Reeder
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Monday, March 29, 2021, 17:24 (1964 days ago) @ Jim Taylor
front sight quicker in most cases than that red dot. If you practice a lot, 200 rounds a day, then the red dot will become second nature to you. Then again maybe not. That front sight will always be there.
also in bright sunlight that red dot is invisible.
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 16:59 (1963 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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Effective training will show you what you need.
Ray Shepard
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Monday, March 29, 2021, 19:53 (1964 days ago) @ TM
I would agree with what most have said already. Most law enforcement agencies do not allow lasers. Some reasons being the inaccuracy, which leads to liability. But in a dynamic situation such as an active shooter, trying to find a laser on a bad guy would not be easy. It would be slower than using iron sights. I also see fundamentals significantly decrease with people using lasers, they finally get the dot to hold still on the target then suddenly snatch the trigger and are bewildered that the shot went low. Of course this can be corrected with training. But one of the worst things about lasers, in my opinion, is multiple people having them on the same target, no one knows who's is who's.
Some people use lasers instead of putting night sights on guns, but if it's too dark to see your sights it's likely too dark to see you target as well.
Through training I have figured out what gear I need and what I don't need. Mindset, then tactics (movement, cover, concealment, escape routes if necessary), then skill (shooting fundamentals, knife fighting or other fighting skills, etc), then gear (just tools to get the job done, some tools make it easier, some don't).
I would also make it a point to make sure your family knows what to do in that situation. My wife and I have discussed a few concise phrases and in this situation she would go to our vehicle or a safe place (how ever far away she needs to go), call 911 and give a physical/clothing description of me so the 5-0 knows what the good guy looks like and describe the situation.
Just my 2 cents. But try a laser out if it tickles your fancy, just dont think you HAVE to use it if your train with it and don't like it.
Well stated, Ray!
Larryh
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Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 14:16 (1963 days ago) @ Ray Shepard
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