Couple of my problems with the Lyman 450

WB
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Friday, April 09, 2021, 19:12 (1953 days ago)

Let me preface this with the knowledge that, as typical, what I'm working with is not exactly normal or to the manual's spec. This is a custom 10mm 200 gr. that is a spectacular design incorporating a stepped gas check shank of around 0.3815" by my measurements. Some of my .41 checks are too thin and loose (0.398/0.008 thick). I have some aluminum plain base .40 cal. checks that are ok (0.389/0.009 thick). The .416" thick rifle checks go whonky convex on me. However I have some Gator thick .41 checks that seem very workable. I used the loose checks myself last time but I want these to be better for a friend. I shoot some very ugly bullets at times to the same effect as pretty ones. Might as well as the check is wasted otherwise and all that work to that point. Like I said they shoot fine.

The nose punch is another matter. I seldom have one exactly suitable and many times fabricate my own. However this time I'm trying to stuff a .41 check onto a 0.403" bullet in a 0.401" hole. Not having a perfect nose punch is giving me some very slightly shaved bullets. I'll shoot them so not a total loss. I think I may size them and install the checks to later lube them in the Lyman with no pressure to cause them to shave. An extra step but it may help.

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It seems I fiddle with some bullets more than others setting the lube depth. Again it's partly related to some booger nose punch that may not let me push it far in enough before bottoming. Maybe not, that's where the fiddling comes in. I wished I took notes from the times before. I really, really dislike the gooey bottom issue until I find the right setting.

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Just a part rant and part pleat for possible tips and tricks. Maybe I need to use the heater a little to warm the lube for better, easier flow. I did about 1500 of these a good while back but can't remember my combination of nose plug, gas checks, lube, and sizer press finesse. But I usually find it, need to make notes, I'm feeling old.

No powder coat?

Brian T
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Saturday, April 10, 2021, 04:24 (1952 days ago) @ WB

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That would be much easier.

WB
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Saturday, April 10, 2021, 05:39 (1952 days ago) @ Brian T

I was trying to be traditional for my own satisfaction. Like Bro. Jim. I know what he means with his perspective. Once I get it running it is very satisfying. With the equipment set up and the correct checks, nose punch for the specific bullet, proper lube viscosity, it all gins right along.

This was an extra challenge and it will be sweet to conquer the little nuances. It makes me feel smarter, to myself. lol

Now that you mention it...

WB
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Saturday, April 10, 2021, 05:47 (1952 days ago) @ WB

I did that before. It tightens the checks to fit perfectly and there is no lube to contend with since the poly jackets are a barrier to the lead and bore. I fix the checks on the shank and size the bumped up 0.405" bullets to 0.401" while applying the checks with the LEE die. Done.

I might do some powder coating. I need a couple thousand of these for .40, 10mm, .401 Herters, .400 GNR (that might need special sizing - .398"), .38-40 too. I actually blew up my oven! I'm not sure if it was related to the powder but the element shorted in very dramatic fashion! I was shocked (no pun) that the 10A circuit did not trip any faster. I bounced on my heels as the lightning and plasma arced popped, THEN the breaker tripped. I about crapped my pants. I need to acquire another $25 oven. I go through phases. If I can get me a really big batch done up it might last me a year or two in that respective caliber.

You have convinced me that it is better

jthomson
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Saturday, April 10, 2021, 07:00 (1952 days ago) @ WB

to order my cast bullets ready to load, thats gives me the extra time to go shooting. LOL. That being said I just got my order from Starline yesterday and am ready to load up a bunch of 44s. I still keep several hundred pounds of lead ingots handy if I ever have to make the run to Arkansas for casting lessons. Be Well Scotty

LOL, True uncle Jon. Huey says that too.

WB
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Saturday, April 10, 2021, 07:28 (1952 days ago) @ jthomson

But it's just something I'm drawn to. I do enjoy it when I FINALLY get around to doing it. Therapeutic. I'm sure I can scrounge the coin to buy them in bulk myself but I have the stuff, the skill, knowledge (usually) if I can only manage the time. I actually bought a thousand .32 bullets already made not long ago, a personal travesty!

I was recently blessed to be promoted at work and placed into a position where I actually have to "work", more in a visible capacity. That's sort of crimped my style lately. But God is good and I'm coming around to find balance once more.

I hope to engage the boys more too.

I just don't have time to cast. Almost all bullets I buy...

Huey
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Saturday, April 10, 2021, 10:16 (1952 days ago) @ WB

These days are powder coated. They shoot and store better than traditional lubed bullets.

Powder coat and

Randy Barnett
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Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:42 (1952 days ago) @ WB

LEE push through sizer

I have that wonderful grey powder I got from you

WB
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Saturday, April 10, 2021, 16:45 (1952 days ago) @ Randy Barnett

I just need to go buy a new oven. I hate wal-mart! The last one I was in was Oct. 2020 at HHC. About my only option.

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