Gary have you ever thought of a 6.5 X 30/40 Krag?
bigboar
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Tuesday, April 20, 2021, 15:48 (1942 days ago)
I am thinking of a .25, .264, .7mm, or 308 custom? I have used a 25 Krag Imp before and thought a Reeder Improved would be great, especially in a single shot pistol/rifle???
the 30-40 and the 303 Brit have been used by every custom
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, April 20, 2021, 16:41 (1942 days ago) @ bigboar
cartridge guy in the world. When I first started developing my own cartridges back in '78 I started with the 30-40 and the 303. Every one I came up with Dave Manson of Manson Reamers would tell me "nope, 3 guys have done that one" Or 4 guys or 5. Those 2 pieces of brass have been overdone completely. You can't use up the case capacity of those 2 cases due to a lack of case strength. I went to the 405 case as it is a much stronger case and there are more cartridges that can be made on them. You mentioned the 25, 264, 7mm, or 30 caliber. We have those calibers and several more based on the 405 case and they will beat the 30-40 and 303 in every way. We have the 405 case necked down to 25, 270, 7mm, 308,338, 8mm, 358, 366 and 375. And they have been used by hunters all over the world. Several of those calibers were used in the African hunt I just got back from by 3 or 4 of the hunters. Everything up to elephant have been taken by those cartridges.
We also have 12 cartridges based on the 30-30 case from .224 up to .40 and they will all out-do the 30-40 and 303 based cartridges due to the strength of the 30-30 case.
So thanks for the thoughts but no 30-40 or 303 wildcats for me.
I have a .30-40 but have not worked that much wtih it
WB
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Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 05:37 (1941 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
but I have shot many .303. The biggest issue for me was case head separations. Even with the moderate level .303 British loadings. I tried only neck sizing but the old SMLE action had enough give in it that eventually you will still get that bright ring or a crack just ahead of the case web. But you usually get several loadings from a case. IF you neck size only. Otherwise you do good to get 3-4 loadings from your brass. (SMLE have numbered bolt "heads" to adjust headspace)
I have also conjured the issue from the .405 case BUT it was by running two guns in the same caliber at the total edge of maximum. I had to FL size due to small differences in chambers and the need to ensure reliability for hunting. Still I got 5-6 loadings before I got concerned.
in my 378 GNR and Kase's 378 GNR, and
Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 12:55 (1941 days ago) @ WB
both have had dozens and dozens of rounds run thru them I have yet to have a case separation. Nor with any of my other 405 loadings.
You have to try much harder! Lol it was
WB
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Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 20:31 (1941 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
Max .338 GNR in two different guns, full length resizing after each shooting. Real abuse and it too many of those sessions to begin to show signs. Truly validating of the robust character of the .405 case and design of the .338 GNR that minimizes stretching even in undue stress! Like I said it takes almost abusive conditions.
That was extensive sessions working up loadings, repeating Max loads with the same brass, over and over. For hunting we use new brass FL sized to fit either gun to just drop right in and close easily. We both took trophy Blackbucks with handguns at the Y-O! Lifetime goals for a couple wanna-be hand gunners! 200 gr. Hornady at 2600 fps in handgun length barrels!
Gary I do have a 25/Krag AI barrel.
bigboar
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Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 15:45 (1941 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
Gary I do have a 25/Krag AI barrel I'll be putting on a Ruger #3. Should be fun.