Whack it!

WB
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 08:04 (1904 days ago)

This very old M500 has a split but repairable stock. But that does not inspire me too much. So I ordered a Hogue pistol grip and I’m about ready to whack the barrel off a little bit longer than minimal due to potential discrepancies in how some goober might measure. It’s hard to argue with a stupid person. What’s an extra inch or 3/4 anyway.

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The front sight is nothing to worry over and I’ve even seen no gunsmithing clip/stick on fiber tube fronts. So that will be easy.

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There are enough plain old beater guns out there. Might as well have a little fun. Heck of a snake gun.

Bob W. unless you are an ATF agent keep your

Gary Reeder
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 08:46 (1904 days ago) @ WB

barrel length ideas to yourself. The legal shotgun barrel length is 18". So stop with the know it all BS on this forum. And any of you that read his post about 16" pay no attention to it.

Thanks for that GR. This guy is going to get somebody

J. Staples
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 09:16 (1904 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

in trouble.

By golly you are right, 18.5"

WB
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 10:46 (1904 days ago) @ J. Staples

For my own uses I'll probably measure from the front of the receiver. As you reminded, probably 18.6". The Hogue furniture looks really good and while things are still hard to find there are some out there.

Mine is a 20 ga., and since I'll likely be shooting mostly birdshot light loads, recoil is not much of an issue for me. I've shot many a pistol grip 12 ga. in the day. My favorite grips were the Pachmayr set they used to sell. (Vindicator?)Totally top notch.

https://www.hogueinc.com/tamer-shotgun-pistol-grip-and-forend-for-mossberg-500-12-gauge

Bottom gun is an AOW entry rig.
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Scott... my set up for bad times

james
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 11:07 (1904 days ago) @ WB

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Der Compleat Conzertmeister Kit.

Bob W
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 11:56 (1904 days ago) @ james

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Set for Really Hard Times

Jim Taylor
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 13:41 (1904 days ago) @ Bob W

Just guessing this would be capable

Lonnie
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 15:39 (1904 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

of explosive expansion.

The kind of stuff we hope never gets used.

Jim Taylor
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 16:13 (1904 days ago) @ Lonnie

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That’s a fact.

Lonnie
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 16:18 (1904 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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Jim, what powder, and what’s a safe starting load?

Larryh
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 16:38 (1904 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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I used the load out of the Speer Manual

Jim Taylor
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 17:16 (1903 days ago) @ Larryh

125 gr. Speer JHP
20 gr. H110 ... that's a max load. I use Military Surplus powder .. WC820 ...
I chronograph ed this load from the little S&W at over 1300 fps.

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Oh geez .. I thought you were asking about the 357 ...

Jim Taylor
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 17:27 (1903 days ago) @ Larryh

I have no clue as to what goes into one of THOSE things! I don't care to be in the same hemisphere when one goes off.

Hoo boy! Could get John Wick out of a tight!

WB
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 13:38 (1904 days ago) @ james

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I had the Vindicator set a looong time ago,

Bob W
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 11:43 (1904 days ago) @ WB

its main virtue was it added a lot of weight to help a little in taming recoil. As an fyi, the Raptor grip is much better than the Vindicator, BUT, the 20ga may not need that help as you aver. If it turns out it does, you have a plan B anyhow.

They are fun to play with, and you might see if you can find another used long barrel to cut, so that you still have a good hunter to use.

The crack is easy to fix with wood glue and small hardwood dowel, just drill down to crack, pump in glue until it comes out the crack, leave the dowel in place and clamp, wipe excess, cut dowel flush when dry and oil the cut end. It will appear a domino dot. In any case, enjoy the toy, that is what they are for.

Yes this is old enough the stock is walnut

WB
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 13:35 (1904 days ago) @ Bob W

It’s worth fixing. I use Accraglass rather than wood glue and I can almost perfectly match color. Not that it really matters on this one. Doug’s M64 Winny is another matter...

I was mentioning getting another barrel to cut

Bob W
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 14:29 (1904 days ago) @ WB

as there just is not much demand for the long barrels, and likely can be found still and cheaply. Yes, noticed the old wood and even looked close to see if it old enough to have only the single action bar, but seems to have the twin bars. Acraglas is top drawer, only mentioned wood glue as if properly clamped plus the pinning, it is everywhere, cheap, and likely will last as long as the gun. I really like that old gun, ringed forend, the works.

just another nutcase. We've had them on here before

charlie A.
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 14:58 (1904 days ago) @ J. Staples

They eventually go off to haunt another site. This guy, like J. said is a true know it all.

The Shokewave by Mossberg is legal (for now)

Bob W
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 16:45 (1903 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

by the same ATF approval as the first such which approval was granted to an indivirual (owner of Shockwave Technologies who licensed the concept to Mossberg) that a shotgun never equipped with a buttstock simply needed only meet the Federal minimum length of 26" LOA, and to meet that length, the barrel length will vary depending upon pistol grip length.

Now, you owe me an apology for that foul mouthed tirade, and if not man enough to do it, I can be equally foul mouthed to say that you and your lapdogs can go eff yourselves with vigor.

Guest status

F S
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 17:40 (1903 days ago) @ Bob W

by the same ATF approval as the first such which approval was granted to an indivirual (owner of Shockwave Technologies who licensed the concept to Mossberg) that a shotgun never equipped with a buttstock simply needed only meet the Federal minimum length of 26" LOA, and to meet that length, the barrel length will vary depending upon pistol grip length.

Now, you owe me an apology for that foul mouthed tirade, and if not man enough to do it, I can be equally foul mouthed to say that you and your lapdogs can go eff yourselves with vigor.

You are a guest here !!! you know that right???

What's legal to the ATF

IC
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 18:07 (1903 days ago) @ Bob W

doesn't mean that it's legal in all states.

no sir, I don't owe you anything. You are the know it all

Gary Reeder
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 18:09 (1903 days ago) @ Bob W

that is spouting all your BS. Go find you another site to troll. We don't need any wannabe experts to guide us along.

wait a minute here. I read GNRs post 3 times, once

charlie A
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 18:53 (1903 days ago) @ Bob W

without moving my lips and there was not a foul word in there. So if GNRs post was foul to this sanctimonious twit, he needs to leave while he can as some of the words on here would likely put him into the shivering fits. And hell, I never knew I was a lapdog. What kind of dog is that. That guy would never rate being one of the Misfits. We are much better off without his like. Damn, never heard of a lapdog.

wow Charlie. "Sanctimonious twit" I have known you

gary reeder
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Friday, May 28, 2021, 19:14 (1903 days ago) @ charlie A

for 40 years or more and I have never heard you use a 5 syllable word before. usually 14 letter 4 syllable words that you learned off the bathroom wall at the local service station. I am proud of you Charlie. Damn...sanctimonious twit. I need to use that sometime. And you are right, that Bob W. is a real yoyo that is using air that a good cat could be using and this forum is much better off without him. And if he thought anything I said in my first post was foul, I need to let him talk to my red headed wife when she gets her dander up. She could give the pope heart failure.

High Standard Flight King

Randy Barnett
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Saturday, May 29, 2021, 04:44 (1903 days ago) @ WB

I inherited a High Standard Flight King from an uncle who passed many years ago. The shotgun only held sentimental value and I had no use for a long barrel full choke 12 ga.

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I shortened the barrel, installed a green fiber optic front sight and coated the entire gun with Brownell's Aluma-Hyde II.

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