WB, in the FA revolver thread you started below

JS
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Thursday, June 03, 2021, 19:10 (1897 days ago)

... you remarked, "... but those grips." sorry, but what were you referring to?

more accurately, "but that grip..."

JS
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Thursday, June 03, 2021, 19:25 (1897 days ago) @ JS

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That rubber Pachmayr on the FA83 Field gun

WB
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Friday, June 04, 2021, 07:56 (1897 days ago) @ JS

is a special model and hard to find! I'd not relish shooting a full house .454 with that rubber hand spanker! BUt the factory smooth stocks are not too bad, just slippery. Gary's mods have more surface area and the shape really dissipates recoil, lets you have more control on follow through too. It's a design refined over much time and trials on rigs up to .500 Maximums.

the only time I ever got cut on

james
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Friday, June 04, 2021, 14:32 (1896 days ago) @ WB

my finger from shooting a heavy load through a FA`s was with the Pachmyers

FA .50

Okie
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Friday, June 04, 2021, 15:18 (1896 days ago) @ james

I have a field grade in .50AE with a 7 1/2 barrel and the factory Pachmayr grips and it's flat brutal to shoot! Kicks way harder than my .454 and .475 Linebaugh. There Premier grades with the factory wood and micarta grips. I thought it was just me that found the Pachmayr's made recoil worse. On my old Ruger and Smith .44s I think the rubber grips help, something about the Freedom grip frame I guess. I even sent it to Magna -Port to have it ported and its still pretty rough recoil wise, I think it needs grips now.

send it to Reeder. Like WB said the difference is

Billy Atkins
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Friday, June 04, 2021, 16:01 (1896 days ago) @ Okie

like night & day.

While Bob’s grip does a pretty good job

WB
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Thursday, June 03, 2021, 21:27 (1897 days ago) @ JS

It just comes up short when you feel one that has been “Gunfightered”. Also for some reason FA guns seem to nave very small trigger guard openings. It’s ok to me as I have pretty small hands. A friend and Bear guide of mine has sausages for fingers and his didn’t fit! I’d never really noticed it before.

The FA grip just feels different, not quite right to me. You should try that same SA grip on my FA2008 in .378 GNR! Maybe 3,000+ fpe was not such a good fit! Lol

I manage the factory wood and smooth FA83 and 97 grip fine. One gun I was checking out had the special Pachmayr on it. I’d RUN, not walk to get it to Gary so he could do his magic. You’d just never know or understand till you handled one done so yourself!

That trigger guard to grip space

Grover Sr
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Friday, June 04, 2021, 10:35 (1897 days ago) @ WB

Is why I don't have an FA. My hands are normal size but the middle knuckles on my right hand are almost half again normal size from work and injuries. Gary's Magnum grip frame really works well for me.

that is what our Magnum gripframe is intended to do,

gary reeder
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Friday, June 04, 2021, 21:07 (1896 days ago) @ Grover Sr

to get that middle knuckle away from the back of the trigger guard. The Bisley Gunfighter grip is a very good gripframe and I have it on most of my hunting revolvers BUT it does bash the middle knuckle on hot loads. The Magnum gripframe gives you about 3/8" extra space between the back of the trigger guard and your knuckle.

To each their own....LOL while I agree with most of WB's

jthomson
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Friday, June 04, 2021, 20:16 (1896 days ago) @ WB

statement, it simply does not hold true for me personally, I have one of the field grade FA83 models in 454 and have no problems with the Pachmayr rubber grips , in fact I prefer them, the reason is they are larger than the hard grips and seem to fill my hand better. They do however feel loose on the frame to me. I have several of Gary's guns and I will admit that the "Gunfighter" configuration is a vast improvement, the only gun I own that slams into my knuckles is the Bisley, just not enough room between the trigger guard and the grip. not the Lwr Left grip compared to the Upper Left Superblackhawk frame ( my favorite) RH Upper is the std Blackhawk, and the Lwr RH a Trailrider conversion on a Superblackhawk Gripframe. All Gunfightered. The only problem I have with Gary's grips are that they are so smooth I feel like I can't get a good grip on them, however the comfort outweighs that notion. All in all my hands favor one thing and yours will favor something else[image]

you have to remember the FA gripframe was the brainchild

gary reeder
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Friday, June 04, 2021, 21:04 (1896 days ago) @ WB

of Wayne Baker and Dick Casull. Both sorta used the Colt gripframe (in my humble opinion) to copy for the FA gripframe. Casull had been playing with his hot loads on Colt frames and guns for years while coming up with his 454 Casull so he was used to that gripframe. Wayne Baker was a bridge builder and not a gun guy so he went along with Casull's recommendation on the size and design of the FA gripframe.

I SHOT DICK'S .44 MAGNUM COLT SAA

JT
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Saturday, June 05, 2021, 05:28 (1896 days ago) @ gary reeder

AND CAN SEE WHY HE TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING CLOSE BUT MORE COMFORTABLE TO HIM.

I shot it also. The Colt grip did not bother me.

Jim Taylor
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Saturday, June 05, 2021, 06:40 (1896 days ago) @ JT

Other than hammer the knuckle of my second finger. By that time I had a nice callus there so it did not bother me.

The grip on the FA 454 never bothered me either. Everyone's hands are different.

BUT REMEMBER WE WERE

JT
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Saturday, June 05, 2021, 06:49 (1896 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

OH SO YOUNG BACK THEN!

Yessir. I remember you shooting a thousand rounds

Jim Taylor
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Saturday, June 05, 2021, 07:36 (1896 days ago) @ JT

through the 454 in a couple days in 1986!

YOU ARE MAKING MY HANDS HURT AGAIN!

JT
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Saturday, June 05, 2021, 11:09 (1896 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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