Gary. I gathered the guides sidearms in

james
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:23 (1849 days ago)

bear camp and they were all 44 and one 460 plus the rifles they carried..... BIG bears ain`t no joke....[image][image]

the 44s should be loaded with

Alcorn
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:30 (1849 days ago) @ james

Garrett cartridges ammo.

all except the S&Ws. We sell the Garrett ammo and all the

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:57 (1849 days ago) @ Alcorn

hot stuff is marked only for the Ruger Redhawk, Super Redhawk, Dan Wesson and Taurus. Way too hot for the S&W Model 29 or 629.
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I bet those new 5 inch Taurus hunters would be good

Bucky
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 12:39 (1849 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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Handled one like this at LGS , balanced good

Derek
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 18:39 (1849 days ago) @ Bucky

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Ever slicked one of these up?

44 mag

Alcorn
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 19:13 (1849 days ago) @ Derek

Garret makes a 310 standard pressure load for S&W 29 and Ruger Super Blackhawk.
Cylinder are too short on these guns for the 330 gr load.

we stay away from work on the Taurus. Taurus guns are very

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 11:18 (1848 days ago) @ Derek

well made and they have a great warranty but they will not sell parts and if we get inside a gun and find a broken part the guns owner, along with us, are screwed. We have voided their warranty by trying to do whatever work the customer wanted and now he has a broken gun that we can't get parts for and that the company won't fix due to a voided warranty.

Dang, that would suck

Bucky
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Thursday, July 22, 2021, 05:06 (1847 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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if you look at the guns closely you will notice that all

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 13:21 (1849 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

of them except the Freedom Arms are 6 shot cylinders. The Freedom Arms is 5. That is the strength factor. The other guns have the locking notch almost exactly over the chamber, so the metal at the bottom of that notch is less thickness that the thickness of your fingernail. That is all the metal between you and the hot round. The 5 shot cylinder has the locking notch between the chambers giving it a much better strength factor.

s&W 460

joepjs
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 14:44 (1849 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

how about that ammo type in the 454 used in the 460 S&W?

Garrett's doesn't load ammo in 454 (that I know of)

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 15:53 (1849 days ago) @ joepjs

If you want hot 454 just about any factory 454 ammo will be about the same power.

Ammo link

Garrett
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 16:19 (1849 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

YES HE DID AS I HAVE USED IT ON ELK

JT
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 16:57 (1849 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

AND BISON

sorry, we have only carried the 44 mag and

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 17:48 (1849 days ago) @ JT

45 Long Colt and 45-70. When Randy Garrett sold the business we sorta dropped out.

Garrett Ammo

Ray
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Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:03 (1848 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I've never seen a box of Garrett 44 Magnum ammo for sale in Alaska. The stores here carry Buffalo Bore instead.

the Garrett ammo is (in my estimation) the best there is

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:24 (1848 days ago) @ Ray

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JUST CURIOUS

BUCKWHEAT
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Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 13:10 (1848 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

ARE THERE ACTUALLY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT TRY TO DO SOME SORT OF +P LOADING IN A 454 & OF COURSE WHY ?
I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE QUEST FOR POWER & THE STORY OF THE 44 MAG BUT GEEZ
I GET UP ON THE HIGH SIDE OF THE 38 SPECIAL +P LOADINGS & I'M ALREADY STARTING TO THINK ABOUT MY GUN NOT TO MENTION MY HEAD
GET A BIGGER GUN WHY DONTCHA

there is a whole large group of younger shooters that always

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:39 (1848 days ago) @ BUCKWHEAT

want more and more power. Randy Garrett supplied the ammo for them that gave them more power but within safety boundaries. We never had any problems with Garretts ammo other than some idiots wanting to use that ammo in a gun not meant for that ammo. We always show the people what guns it was intended for by the label on top. They didn't always believe us as they always seemed to think their 44 mag revolver was strong as any other 44 mag. The S&W M-29 is one of my all time favorite revolvers but I will be the first to tell you my M-29 is not as strong as a Ruger Redhawk. It is a lot smoother but not as strong, period.

As we get older we tend to shy away from the overly hot ammo and abusive recoil(at least most of us do, Kelly Brost is not included in this group).

Loading up my ammo for my African Lion hunt in 8 weeks I found the loads I used in my 378 GNR a few years back for African plains game like Kudu, Gemsbok, eland and such were a bit hard to handle these days.
Just like there is a call for cars with more and more horsepower, and probably always will be, there is also a demand for more and more power in a handgun. Look at the 500 S&W and the 460 S&W. Then look at all the hot stuff that Reeder guy has developed. There is always a demand for more of everything. When we get to where we are satisfied with a 32 auto, then this business is doomed.

I DO UNDERSTAND GARY

BUCKWHEAT
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Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:55 (1848 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

JUST FIGURED MOST PEOPLE LOOKED UPON THE 454 & KNEW IT WAS ALREADY PRETTY HIGH PRESSURE & LIKE YOU SAID - JUST GET A BIGGER GUN
BEEN DOWN THE ROAD MYSELF ONCE WITH THE 45-70
THAT WAS A FAIRLY BRIEF TRIP !!

speaking of Kelly Brost a moment ago, I have built

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:21 (1848 days ago) @ BUCKWHEAT

encore barrels in calibers I won't even mention on here for Kelly. Calibers that I don't like in rifles he wanted in an Encore handgun. And I guarantee you if I came out with another new caliber that was way too hot for a handgun, Kelly would be first in line to want it in a handgun. There are a lot of quiet, shy, unassuming fragile guys around.....and then there is Kelly.

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But before anyone thinks I am bad mouthing Kelly, absolutely not. Kelly has been a friend for many years. Right now he is one of those over the ice truckers that drive their semi trailer trucks over the ice on large lakes in Alaska. So Kelly is a good friend. Maybe a few bricks shy a full load, but a good friend.

Same here on .45-70. Visited a friend at his

Chip
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Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:37 (1847 days ago) @ BUCKWHEAT

place in the woods to do some shooting, and he produced a standard Contender with a .45-70 barrel, fired it, and asked if I wanted to try it, which I made the mistake of wanting to do. Felt like my hand was swatted with a baseball bat. I handed it back and he chortled and I knew I was in for a lot of ribbing to shoot it again. Luckily, his next shot had the front sight fly off the gun.

Horsepower

Okie
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Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:04 (1848 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Gary, I was thinking but I could be wrong didn't you have some badass Encore or revolver break your finger or mess up your hand about 15-20 years ago? Seems like I called your shop about getting some work done and they said you were out of commission for a while. Been a long time ago.

Garrett Ammo .454 Casull

TM
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Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:53 (1847 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

yep, John Taffin already posted that 2 days ago.

Gary Reeder
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Friday, July 23, 2021, 12:01 (1846 days ago) @ TM

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A Guide's guns are very interesting to me.

WB
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Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 14:37 (1849 days ago) @ james

A fellow smaller than me was seemingly intelligent and quiet. He carried a slightly shortened .375 H&H Mauser with well worn checkering from being carried in hand. His handgun was a Super RH in .454, also modified, by Mag-na-port. I felt pretty good with him. The other Bozo was a loudmouth, had a pretty new synthetic and stainless custom 28" barreled .300 Ultra-Mag., with a 6x24x Leupold scope (sheep rifle), to use on bear in the alders. He also had a lightweight 4" S&W .44 Mag. Scandium frame gun with Grizzly Ctgs. heavy cast loads in it. I figured the bear would get him first as he was older and fatter than me. He's the first Guide I've ever had to tell NO also. He wanted to get down and on the 4-wheeler while the adolescent Grizz was on the bait. He was tired of waiting. I told him I would do what I could with my single shot but I was saving the 5 in my .510 Revolver for me keeping him out of the stand, because I was not going anywhere! He shot two rounds from the .44 to scare the bear (I was thankful it did not grenade the cylinder) and one from his .300 to no avail. Then we found both of his Safariland speedloaders would not release his back up cartridges. I worked on them a bit and darned if I could figure it out. They were the push to release type. Piss on that, HKS rules.

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