brown bear back up

Alcorn
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Saturday, July 31, 2021, 17:24 (1837 days ago)

Which single action 5 shot revolver would you carry to back up a 416 Taylor encore single?
Reeder Professional Hunter 7.5" 457 GNR 340 gr. hard cast at 1700fps
Reeder Howdah 5.5" 44mag 330gr. hard cast at 1400 fps
Reeder Lee Jurras memorial 7.5" 475 Linebaugh 420 gr. at 1425 fps

475 Linebaugh

Randy Barnett
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Saturday, July 31, 2021, 18:13 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

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475

Bob Denning
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Saturday, July 31, 2021, 20:13 (1837 days ago) @ Randy Barnett

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475 Linebaugh

backroadsrambler
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Saturday, July 31, 2021, 22:29 (1837 days ago) @ Bob Denning

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475

Derek
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 10:40 (1837 days ago) @ backroadsrambler

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Don’t matter, back-up you are in deep doo-doo

WB
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Saturday, July 31, 2021, 18:26 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

Any of those would fare equally as to penetration. The most reliable might have some merit. The only chance you’d have would be while it was chewing on someone else. They are lightning fast.

Won't be used

Alcorn
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Saturday, July 31, 2021, 19:09 (1837 days ago) @ WB

The 416 Taylor has one shot a cape buffalo and a record book black bear

.475

Lynn
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Saturday, July 31, 2021, 19:20 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

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My wife loves me! Says I use my Single-Six!

Larryh
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Saturday, July 31, 2021, 20:58 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

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No honor in handicapping yourself!

Rob
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 04:00 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

A single shot and a single action! Go with a double action for back up for the reasons that have been discussed on here in the past. Get that shot off no matter what. despite how trained or capable we think we are to get that single action ready we may fail under pressure.

Single action vs Double action

Alcorn
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 04:59 (1837 days ago) @ Rob

I have been shooting single actions single 1975. I have done demonstrations with single actions. In 1991 I watched the world record holder do a demostration at Bill wilsons country pavilion. So, I am more comfortable with a single action than a double action and with me personable just as fast.

Right! Go with what you know!

Jim Taylor
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 07:14 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

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7.5” is a lot of barrel length for me. The 44 would be more

Drdougrx
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 05:24 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

handy and easier to deploy I think. Then again, what do I know…..

Witch one do you prefer to shoot, or rather

Blake
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 08:25 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

Witch one is the most natural for you to shoot?

Not the 457 GNR

Alcorn
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 08:52 (1837 days ago) @ Blake

Big heavy, with a lot of recoil, but very powerful.

Well down to two! Do you have a cross draw holster for

Blake
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 10:56 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

the 475? That would make the 7.5” barrel handier

I agree with Blake, which ever one you can shoot the best

Andy S
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 09:42 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

under pressure. Target acquisition, and recoil are another consideration. You will get one perhaps two off in 50 yes. 475 would be my choice if I were proficient. Make that 416 Taylor count. Best of luck.

Have any pictures of the choices? 44 would be handier

Bucky
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 10:42 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

With shorter barrel, maybe with Garrett's ammo.

that is a hard one Alcorn. None of those will stop a

gary reeder
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Sunday, August 01, 2021, 14:25 (1837 days ago) @ Alcorn

pissed off bear with one shot unless you hit him in the brain or spine. And if you wound him, he will have the adrenalin pumping and won't feel that next shot all. You will have to break him down and then kill him. That is what your 416 is for. Break that front shoulder down. If you are lucky the bullet will break the shoulder bone and go on thru and break the off shoulder. Maybe even blowing up both lungs at the same time. But first break him down. Then kill him.

With my Cape Buffalo hunt recently there was nothing between my PH and me and a pissed off Cape Buffalo but a lot of tall grass. At 60 yards John, the PH, talked me into walking up to 25 yards of the buffalo to where I could see the front shoulder. At 60 yards the tall grass covered up the entire front quarter. So there was nothing to do but walk slowly straight toward the buffalo, up to 25 yards.
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I was using a borrowed 454 Casull and if you believed all the Cape Buffalo stories that claim they needed 4 or 5 shots with a 458 Win Mag or bigger to put him down, then that 454 began to look awful small. At about 20 yards the buffalo had moved broadside and thru the tall grass I could make out the point of shoulder. Putting that 300 grain JSP into that shoulder pretty much stopped the buffalo. He staggered a few steps and John said 'hit him again," I did a bit higher and that shot blew up both lungs.
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Ten seconds after that it was all over. Two shots with a pissant 454 and a 1900 lb Cape Buffalo was down. So like John Taffin always says, it's shot placement that counts.
Forget a heart shot. A big bear has 30 seconds or more after his heart is blown up. And he can cover a lot of ground in 30 seconds. I would go with the caliber that has the most blunt force trauma to break that bear down. Go with the 475 if you are comfortable and accurate with it. If you don't feel quite warm and fuzzy with the 475, send your 44 mag to me and let me run it out to 429 GNR. Power equal to the 454 but less violent recoil. For my cat hunt coming up the 429 GNR will be there with me. Alcorn, just go with the flow. Try not to get hyper and stay as calm as you can with a 1400 lb teddy bear thinking of having you for lunch. Make that first shot with the 416 count. You can do it Alcorn, we have been on a lot of hunts together, so I have no doubts that you will get that bear. Just pick a spot on that bear and put the bullet in that spot.

But go with your gut feeling. That is what will get you thru.

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