Rust question
Ray Shepard
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Thursday, September 16, 2021, 18:27 (1789 days ago)
I had a buddy ask me what to do about rust on his backup gun. He keeps it in a pocket and it has developed some rust. I live in a dry climate so rarely have to deal with rust, but he lives in a more humid area. Any suggestions?
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Gary is the man. That need chemical treatment
WB
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Thursday, September 16, 2021, 18:37 (1789 days ago) @ Ray Shepard
To stop and kill that rust. I’m sure he knows a trick.
Hit it with some oil and a pencil eraser. No joke.
Stuart in GA
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Thursday, September 16, 2021, 23:40 (1789 days ago) @ WB
You can't grow back the steel if there's pitting but he can keep it from getting worse.
I’ve got some fancy stuff at work for other applications
WB
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Friday, September 17, 2021, 09:22 (1788 days ago) @ Stuart in GA
That unites chemically with iron oxides to convert into a super resilient polymer compound, totally stopping rust at that point. Some new science. Just a point that gains are being made in the industry.
The other option is to remove all traces of rust and treat to prevent the process from starting again. The more common tried and true method.
There are more humid climates than where I live...
AmBraCol
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Friday, September 17, 2021, 05:46 (1789 days ago) @ Ray Shepard
but not many. I've had the leather soles of dress shoes look like green velvet from sitting in the closet unused for too long. Anyway, I've tried all kinds of "name brand" products, nothing has kept rust at bay like a plain old ATF/Lanolin mix.
Heat the ATF (automatic transmission fluid) in a double boiler type arrangement (I pour it into a small jar in a small saucepan of water) and then start dumping dabs of anhydrous lanolin into, about a pea sized bit at a time, while stirring. A table spoon of lanolin to a couple ounces of ATF is a good mix, but you can make it thicker if you like.
The ATF keeps rust at bay, the lanolin helps it stick to steel. It's VERY good on a parkerized finish, but works great on bare blued steel as well. Prior to using this I had all kinds of rust problems. Haven't had issues in years - as long as I remember to wipe my guns down prior to putting them away.
A few drops on a flannel cloth in a baggie is something I keep in my range bag. Wipe 'em down, put 'em away. Misplaced the baggie a couple weeks ago and got busy when I got home - rust had started to form where hands had rubbed off the protection. Not bad, but enough to remind me to make sure and have one of those cloths in my bag every trip.
As for carry guns, my Llama Cassidy gets wiped down and stuck into my Simply Rugged IWB holster. Both have held up to 15 years or so of constant use. To get that rust on the cylinder under control, use a bit of that ATF/Lanolin mix and some fine steel wool. Some would use a COPPER penny instead, but here in Coffee Country such coins are rare.
a few suggestions
cleaner of rusty guns
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Friday, September 17, 2021, 08:45 (1788 days ago) @ Ray Shepard
try a true and new brass or bronze brush on front or back of cylinder to make sure it really has no other harder impurities which scratch the blueing, and remove the rust from pits with the brush. Soak in kerosene or diesel to passivate any rust missed. Apply a wax mixed with mineral oil (not a vegetable oil which goes rancid and creates acids).
Other suggestion is simply pull the cylinder and send it out for bead blasting and parkerize, the parkerize will absorb your protectant and hold it better than smooth metal.
keep it simple. Forget all the home brews. Send the
Gary Reeder
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Friday, September 17, 2021, 11:35 (1788 days ago) @ Ray Shepard
cylinder to me and we will get the rust off, hi polish it and do our Black Chromex finish on it. The hi polish allows water to bead up and roll off. Sweat and such will take a lot longer to effect it than a standard matte finish like it has on it now. Nothing is fool proof. Even stainless steel will rust. But our Black Chromex will last as long if not longer than stainless steel against rust.
Thanks for the suggestions. Gary--
Ray Shepard
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Friday, September 17, 2021, 13:09 (1788 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
What can I tell him the total cost for all that would be?
giving a bit of a break, tell him $75 plus shipping
Gary Reeder
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Friday, September 17, 2021, 13:25 (1788 days ago) @ Ray Shepard
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and that is just the cylinder.
Gary Reeder
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Friday, September 17, 2021, 13:25 (1788 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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Right, I'll let him know.
Ray Shepard
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Friday, September 17, 2021, 14:20 (1788 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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