400 GNR - Lever action

Keith
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Thursday, October 14, 2021, 14:00 (1759 days ago)

I'm thinking about having a Marlin 336 rebarrelled to 400 GNR.

How well-matched is the 400 GNR with a lever gun? In practice, is the straight-wall a problem in cycling? Do the commonly available JSP/JHP 10mm/40 bullets hold up at rifle velocities?

How about forming brass? Best to start with 30-30? 38-55? 375 Win?

While I like the .400 since you're already .308

WB
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Thursday, October 14, 2021, 17:48 (1759 days ago) @ Keith

Gary's .30 GNR is a heck of a round for a pretty easy rechamber. It gives .300 Savage performance and can still shoot factory .30-30. I also like the idea of his .35 on the .30-30. Easy brass and top .358 cal. performance. More bullet selection that the .400.

358 GNR

Alcorn
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Friday, October 15, 2021, 05:18 (1758 days ago) @ WB

I have a 358 GNR Contender barrel and love it. It is especially good with Nosler 200gr Accubond. You can fire form with 30-30 factory loads.

Will that work on a .35 Rem. rechamber?

WB
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Friday, October 15, 2021, 08:35 (1758 days ago) @ Alcorn

It seems to me the reamer would clean up all of the old .35 Rem. There are lots of .35 Rem. contender barrels out there. I love the Marlin 336 in .35 Rem. but there are extraction issues that arise from being rimless. A lever gun simply NEEDS a good rim on the case.

WB I’ve had at least 20 Marlin’s

Sid R
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Friday, October 15, 2021, 10:03 (1758 days ago) @ WB

In 35 Remington and none from the 50’s to the 90’s had an extraction issue.

I’m sure you will be quite happy with a 400 GNR. What I want is a T4 necked to 410.

I’ve only had (3) .35 336’s. Factory ammo was fine

WB
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Friday, October 15, 2021, 17:04 (1758 days ago) @ Sid R

It was some odd hand loading that manifested the extraction rim jumping. Have you examined the extractor on a 336? Stamped POS, circular spring that snaps on the end of the bolt. A wonder it works at all. The ejector is a glorified Bobby-pin. Again shocking that it has functioned all these years. It is just sort of stuck in the receiver, captive by the bolt. Remove the bolt and it simply falls out.

But some how they DO function.

Same exact ejector on a Win. M1912. A Mossberg 500

Just saying
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Saturday, October 16, 2021, 08:21 (1757 days ago) @ WB

is only a warped piece of spring steel. They work fine and outlast many owners.

WB yeah those parts look cheap

Sid R
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Saturday, October 16, 2021, 12:00 (1757 days ago) @ WB

Come to think of it I had some 220 grain WFN that you had to man handle the finger lever to extract.

it won't clean up the 35 Rem. chamber

Gary Reeder
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Friday, October 15, 2021, 13:09 (1758 days ago) @ WB

The 35 Rem is fatter at the base by about 30 thou. so the 355 GNR won't clean up the 35 Rem chamber.

I think Alcorn is talking about the 355 GNR as

Gary Reeder
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Friday, October 15, 2021, 12:25 (1758 days ago) @ Alcorn

it is on the 30-30 case while the 358 GNR is based on the 445 case.

Yes 355 GNR

Alcorn
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Saturday, October 16, 2021, 03:14 (1757 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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of the calibers mentioned my favorite is the 355 GNR

Gary Reeder
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Friday, October 15, 2021, 12:38 (1758 days ago) @ WB

like Alcorn says below it can be made simply by fire forming the 30-30 in the 355 chamber. It gives you considerably more
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The 400 GNR is also a good one but you can have some problems with 10mm bullets with no cannelure. On recoil they can slip down into the case. You have to put a good strong taper crimp on the bullet as it is so slick.
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Late to the party

Greg M.
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Saturday, October 16, 2021, 12:05 (1757 days ago) @ Keith

but in my experience .375 Win is your best bet for making .400 GNRs. 5 years ago you had to scrounge for brass and it was insanely expensive; now Starline makes it cheap. https://www.starlinebrass.com/375-win

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