So I figured out what that little washer "adapter die" does

WB
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Tuesday, October 19, 2021, 13:37 (1754 days ago)

on a Lyman 310 tool. It ensures concentricity of the case with the die. This does things such as prevent breaking de-capping pins etc. (ask me how I figured that out) The handles can push on the bottom of long cases at an angle. If the case is not supported it indeed is at an angle starting into the die body and may be misaligned. With care it can be deliberately overcome but the adapter die part does serve a purpose.

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Using slower pistol powder for cast applications I broke out the 1/4' thick Dacron blanket stuffing. As directed by the manual. One benefit is after application (stuffing it against the powder with a pen) is that it cannot spill.

I have had this package of stuffing for over a decade (not even close to making a dent as yet) and also used it in .303, .30/40, .30-06, .470/500 Nitro etc. as well as varied Reeder GNR's for light loads or fireforming. Tissue or paper will catch fire! Dacron is good stuff that works while adding no notable weight to the projectile or charge and does not melt nor combust, it just blows out. Even with a chamber break it just blows out the holes. These squares will likely be cut in half again.

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I have always enjoyed the #310 priming system. Its fun.

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Follow up: the .45-70 load using H4227

WB
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Tuesday, October 19, 2021, 17:07 (1754 days ago) @ WB

As listed in an ancient Lyman manual from mid-last century, 20 grs. W/filler wad (Dacron stuffing square) and a nominal 500 gr. bullet (512 gr. actually) was spot on running right at 1025-1030 fps from the 29” barrel. It grouped well but to the left, and my set trigger stopped working (?!).

Seems like a great low pressure load with power right where I needed it. Faster speeds (1200-1400 fps) will need more of a slower (med.-rate) rifle powder. H322, IMR3031 etc. H4227 is too fast for much faster speeds with that big bullet.

45-70 loads

carl hackney
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Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 08:15 (1753 days ago) @ WB

for my contender 16" barrel i've been using 30-33 grains of 3031 with eather a340 or a 405 cast bullet and a small square of dacron wadding the 340s with 33 grains go 1250fps and the 405 with 33 grains go 1100+ fps. recoil isnt that bad i can shoot about 10 rounds in 1 session before i call it quits. the 30 grains loads are almost mild .i've tried 34 grains and recoil in that light 16" carbine is starting to get snappy

When I get time I'll transition to 340 gr. loads

WB
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Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 08:57 (1753 days ago) @ carl hackney

I have a good mould and wish to conserve lead. The added velocity will be welcome with trajectory doping. I was gifted the 512 gr. buffalo slugs and have not had any time to do much of anything. They have been a real blessing to have available.

My application is a replica Sharps with a horrific pokey steel crescent shaped butt. It weighs 10 lbs. however so lighter recoil makes the experience more fun. The 1025 fps heavy bullet will do for now. I'll eventually get to experimenting with more powders but I lack some of the common old stand by's You cant just run out and buy what you want these days. I have a cashe of rifle powder but it's not one commonly listed for this application. But given some time to experiment I think I can manage a loading to use.

Your loads are very powerful and commendable for your uses!

Do I see pink Crocs on your feet? Lol

Derek
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Tuesday, October 19, 2021, 19:06 (1753 days ago) @ WB

Have Really liked following your 45/70 and 310 loading adventure.

Lol! I got them cause the boys would run off with

WB
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Tuesday, October 19, 2021, 19:22 (1753 days ago) @ Derek

My others! I have no pride, it’s long gone.

For loading 40/60 rounds or so in a brief sitting it’s quite fun. A box of (50) cartridges is relaxing and pleasing. The kit with powder bullets and all easily fits into a .30 cal. can. I have a Lyman Jr. turret press that takes the dies too. I hope to set up a retro press soon for more fun. .22 Hornet perhaps! Gary made me a cool G2 barrel, 16” in K-Hornet “Cat Gun” special. With some cast bullets it will be fun. The less sizing the better with the Hornet anything. Neck sizing and 85-90% loads really extend case life and primer pocket tightness.

If we don’t teach others the knowledge will soon be gone. One generation and it’s gone.

the way he keeps going retro, this will be

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 17:23 (1753 days ago) @ WB

his loading bench soon...
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