folks have gone crazy buying any gun they can find.

Gary Reeder
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Monday, October 25, 2021, 14:18 (1748 days ago)

We just got in a transfer for a fellow and it is a Makarov, and not just a Makarov, but a KBI copy of a Makarov. Not even the real thing. And you would never guess how much he paid for it. $250 would have been a good price. $350 not so good but OK I guess. But how about $951 with shipping. And in the write up it says the "rare 9X18 caliber". But $951???

I should have never sold that 6.35×15mmSR

Jim Taylor
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Monday, October 25, 2021, 14:43 (1748 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Made by Raven. I probably could have gotten good money for it.

we got a transfer for a Raven a while back. The gun

Gary Reeder
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Monday, October 25, 2021, 14:47 (1748 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

and an extra 25 ACP mag was $165.

That's crazy!

Jim Taylor
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Monday, October 25, 2021, 15:25 (1748 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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in our shop in Florida we sold probably 2 or 3

Gary Reeder
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Monday, October 25, 2021, 15:38 (1747 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

a day at $69.95. This was Ravens, Jennings and Davis guns (all in one family). We very seldom got any of them back with problems. As long as they didn't dry fire them they seemed to last. So many blue haired old ladies were buying them for home protection.

I remember when Paco was working Security

Jim Taylor
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Monday, October 25, 2021, 15:48 (1747 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

in a gated community ... he arrested a guy who had broken into a house and was shot in the leg by a little old lady with a .25 Raven.

we sold a lot of guns to little old ladies.

Gary Reeder
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Monday, October 25, 2021, 16:34 (1747 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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Ravens

Winn
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Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 07:44 (1747 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

In Atlanta 30 years ago the mayor offered a buy back for guns. 100 dollars regardless of condition. As you can imagine, most of the guns were inoperable, stolen etc.
However some enterprising soul bought about 50 Ravens for $49 each and you know the rest of the story.
Needless to say the mayor's office declined comment on the transaction.

I remember when Ravens were $30. couldn’t hit a can at 25’

MTM
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Monday, October 25, 2021, 15:26 (1748 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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I experimented with handloads in a Raven...

Jim Taylor
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Monday, October 25, 2021, 15:28 (1748 days ago) @ MTM

got a 45 gr. cast bullet up over 1100 fps from it. Shot a lot of those and it never came apart. Blew the primer pocket our of the cases but the little zinc gun kept running.

I keep a little Astra 200 around. It functions 100%

WB
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Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 05:18 (1747 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

and if you can hold it she will keep all 6 on a pie plate at 20 yds. I never mess with any loadings other than the 50 gr. FMJ. I mean why?! If a HP opened up it would hurt penetration. That is about all a little .25 has going for it.

(still in Tulsa working)

the Astras were excellent guns, all of them

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 10:26 (1747 days ago) @ WB

When the military was doing to tests to go from the 1911 to a 9mm, Astra and Star won several of the tests but part of the deal was the company had to move to the U.S. and manufacture the guns here. Astra and Star both refused and the Beretta won the testing and set up a new plant in Accokeek Maryland. The Astra A-80 and the Star model 28 at the time held various contracts with European military and police agencies, in fact Astra and Star held almost all the military and police contracts in Europe at the time.
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I have an Astra Cub in 22 short, engraved and silver

Darryl T.
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Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 14:38 (1747 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

plated. It looks a mini BBQ gun.

sorta like this?

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 15:46 (1746 days ago) @ Darryl T.

the Astra Cub was also the same gun as the Colt Junior

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 15:49 (1746 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Colt had Astra build the guns for them.

Yep

Darryl T.
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Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 16:30 (1746 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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I have 2 of the Budischowskys in 25 ACP and they will

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 17:44 (1746 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

shoot decent groups around 2 to 3" at 25 feet which is all one should shoot at a person and still be considered in fear for his life. I bought my second one recently for $225. I have seen them on gunbroker for $450 and up and one at a bit over $700. So $225 was a steal. They are great little pocket guns, last ditch guns, when all else has failed, double action, stainless and pretty much fool proof in function.
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