Playing With Light .44 Special "special" Loads

Jim Taylor
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Saturday, January 29, 2022, 20:13 (1650 days ago)

(I have mentioned these before ..messing with 'em again and decided to post this)
I take no credit for this loading method. My Dad started using it before WWII when components were hard to get. In the 1960's he started experimenting with it again, making his own molds and eventually patented them. In the early 1960's he was written about in what passed for gun magazines and he sold a number of them around the country.

After shooting my USFA .44 Special for some years I "rediscovered" some of the .44 bullets and started to play with them a little. They make fun plinking loads as well as great loads for practicing drawing and hitting a target, shooting moving targets and all that sort of fun. The cases can be loaded indefinitely. Using lighter loads and no crimp, the do not wear out or develop cracks. Dad had one case he had reloaded over 1200 times and it was still in perfect condition.

I start with the bullet. It is a copy of the original .44 Colt bullet. The .44 Colt was an American centerfire revolver cartridge produced commercially from 1871 until the 1940s. The cartridge was developed for the United States Army, and introduced by Colt's Patent Firearms around 1871. The Army used it until 1873, at which time it was replaced by the better known .45 Colt cartridge used in the then-recently adopted Colt Single Action Army revolver.

The .44 Colt was used in the Richards-Mason conversions of Colt's 1860 Army percussion revolver. The conversion process involved boring through the chambers of the obsolete cap and ball revolvers to enable them to chamber centerfire metallic cartridges. This process left a chamber of uniform diameter, with no step at the front. Thus the bullet and the brass case were made the same diameter, with a short "heel" section at the base of the bullet of smaller diameter inserted in the mouth of the case.

The bullet is Lyman #430185 .. a heel bullet design. The body of the bullet is approximately the same diameter as the cartridge. It is an outside lubricated bullet. It is nominally 210 grains and has no lube grooves or crimp groove. The heel is .430" and the bullet body is .441".

I use cases that have been fired in my gun. I do not size them or neck expand them. What I do is remove the crimp and take about .080" to .100" off the cases in my case trimmer. I remove any burrs inside and outside the case mouth. Once that is done no more operations on the case are necessary.

The loading process is:
1. deprime
2. prime
3. add powder charge
4. seat the bullet by pressing it into the case with your thumb
5. if the bullet is not lubed with something like Lee Liquid Alox, wipe a little lube on it and it is ready to fire.

The oversize front part of the bullet acts as a crimp. It butts against the "step" in the chamber when it is loaded in the gun and holds the bullet back for a micro-second just like a crimp does, allowing the powder to burn properly. It is completely sized by the chamber before it enters the barrel.

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BULLETS

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.44 Colt on the left .. one of my special .44 Specials on right.

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Left .44 Special Right trimmed .44 Special

THE LOADING PROCESS
- add the powder to a primed case
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- seat the bullet with thumb pressure
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It's ready to fire.
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These are -for me - a fun way to shoot the .44 Special.

NOTE: If you are shooting a .44 Magnum you can use regular .44 Special cases and these bullets without having to trim the cases. They work just fine in the .44 Magnum.

The bullet mold is a hard one to find these days. However cast bullet - lubed or unlubed - are available from
WESTERN BULLET CO.
904 Kensington Ave.
Missoula, MT 59801
Phone: (406) 728-4801
Email: info@westernbullet.com
On The Web: http://westernbullet.com

Oh my. Since I have a .310 Martini

WB
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Saturday, January 29, 2022, 20:32 (1650 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

and several .32 revolvers....

Actually on my .310 Martini, the chamber has been reamed a bit to chamber a .32 WCF case. But you cannot chamber a .32-20 with a heeled bullet pushed into the case as you mentioned. You HAVE to trim the case back just a bit to adjust the OAL to fit the throat. A remnant of the original .310 Martini.

I just bet I can do the same with .32 Long cases and those .321" 120 gr. bullets. Of course a very light load is needed as the bullet gets swaged down in the cylinder to .314", in my .32 H&R Ruger, it's soft lead anyway. It might be fun to experiment with it. Basically mimic a .32 Long Colt?

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

Jim Taylor
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Saturday, January 29, 2022, 20:39 (1650 days ago) @ WB

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Puffy and I were once discussing perils of .32 Short Colts

WB
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Saturday, January 29, 2022, 21:19 (1650 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

The cartridges are almost unobtainable. These are encountered mostly in old Colt Police Positives marked ".32 Colt DA". Not to be confused with later versions marked ".32 Colt New Police", which is the same as a .32 S&W long cartridge. As Jim mentioned if you look down the cylinder chambers and they are fully straight, bored through with no "step" for the protruding bullet, it's designed for a heeled bullet type cartridge.

The .32 Short Colt is about the length of the .32 S&W and shoots the same diameter projectile .312 or so. BUT the bullet is heeled and the case is smaller than the S&W in diameter, being basically the same case diameter as the bullet. The case will usually split in a .32 S&W chamber. A minimum bulge, and give mediocre accuracy.

Myself being a bit more bold. I rechambered the old Colt to .32 S&W Long. It took a bit of metal out of the chambers as this configuration was not heeled but inside the case type seated bullet and such the case was several thousandths larger in diameter. So now the chambers have a visible step in them like most modern revolvers. The old gun was not (at that time) very collectable and more desirable in a caliber that you could actually shoot!

Similar to the old Colt .32 DA this is a Pocket Positive but chambered in .32 New Police (.32 S&W Long).
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These are my "hybrid" .310 Martini/Winchesters and a 120 gr. heeled bullet. The actual .310 Martini is a more subtle taper and thinner rim. Brass is challenging to obtain compared to .32-20.
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.32 S&W/SHORTS

JT
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Saturday, January 29, 2022, 21:32 (1650 days ago) @ WB

Starline makes the brass these days

steve todd
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Sunday, January 30, 2022, 04:36 (1649 days ago) @ JT

You probably already knew that….i load mine with black powder, using Lee dies. Great fun to shoot!

32 s&w short round ball loads,

Darryl T.
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Sunday, January 30, 2022, 07:59 (1649 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I picked up some 0 buck .320 diameter with the idea of loading something for a top break Iver Johnson. Thinking it might work, any ideas where to start?

Alox it first! They will lead. But

WB
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Sunday, January 30, 2022, 09:53 (1649 days ago) @ Darryl T.

Real buckshot is typically hardened. It sure won't work in muzzleloaders or BP applications, other than "buckshot". You need pure lead for BP.

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