Blackhawks in 454 durability
GC
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Friday, April 08, 2022, 11:08 (1580 days ago)
Gary how well do the blackhawks converted to 454 hold up with factory loads? Are they ok with the full bore casull loads? I know there's been some people saying the lipseys blackhawks develop endshake so I'm trying to make sure I'm using the right loads. Thanks for any help.
the gun would have to have a larger 5 shot cylinder
Gary Reeder
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Friday, April 08, 2022, 11:31 (1580 days ago) @ GC
and be tight on lock up but that is how any good custom gun guy would build the gun. I don't know how the Lipsey guns are set up, but if they have a good beefy 5 shot cylinder and a bit heavier barrel they should do fine. We build a lot of 454 revolvers and 95% of them are on the Blackhawk or Super Blackhawk base gun and never have any problems. The gun will handle more 454 rounds than the average shooter will.
Pay no attention to the wannabe gunsmiths that post BS on the internet.
LONG BEFORE FREEDOM ARMS
JT
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Friday, April 08, 2022, 12:29 (1580 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
DICK CASULL WAS OFFERING FIVE-SHOT CONVERSIONS ON SUPER BLACKHAWKS
the only thing I would shy away from would be
Gary Reeder
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Friday, April 08, 2022, 15:04 (1580 days ago) @ JT
the Ruger old model 3 screw Blackhawk. In most cases the strength of a revolver is in the cylinder. If a gun blows normally the cylinder goes first. The old model Ruger is strong, much stronger than the Colt SAA but it wouldn't handle 72,000 pounds of pressure before something gave. Ruger knew the ammo of the day was quickly outpacing the strength of the old model guns. The new model guns were considerably stronger than the old models, but nothing is idiot proof. Even the new models will blow if pushed too far. So if you are thinking of having a 454 built, only the new model will do and then with a new 5 shot cylinder and beefy barrel. And a little restraint upon reloading thrown in.
The one wonderful thing about a 454 Casull
jthomson
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Friday, April 08, 2022, 19:47 (1580 days ago) @ GC
is you don't have to load them to the max. 240-250 g loads at 1400, 300 g loads at 1200 will kill just about anything.
SAME CAN BE SAID FOR
JT
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Saturday, April 09, 2022, 08:09 (1579 days ago) @ jthomson
.44 MAGNUM, .45 COLT, AND .480 RUGER, .475 LINEBAUGH, .500 LINEBAUGH AND THE GNR CARTRIDGES.
So the question remains, why does one think they have to
jthomson
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Saturday, April 09, 2022, 08:29 (1579 days ago) @ JT
load these calibers so hot that they damage both the shooter and the firearm. I have followed your writings for a number of years and you do more shooting that any 50 of us, I remember you stating your hands and wrists were suffering from the years of shooting. I personally shoot all but one of the cartridges mentioned but don't find the need to run any of them at max.
When you find an accurate load, that
MTM
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Saturday, April 09, 2022, 14:48 (1579 days ago) @ jthomson
Does pass thrus on most any critter, or at least gives you AMPLE penetration on any given critter, your just burning powder and slowing down you ability to recover for the next shot.
THEY? WHO IS THEY?
JT
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Saturday, April 09, 2022, 15:45 (1579 days ago) @ jthomson
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I took a huge Cape Buffalo with a hot 45 Long Colt load in
Gary Reeder
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Saturday, April 09, 2022, 13:09 (1579 days ago) @ JT
a borrowed 454 Casull revolver.