Now I can work with that!

WB
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Tuesday, May 31, 2022, 16:53 (1526 days ago)

I wanted an “non-Glock”, something I’d not tried before. But I was disappointed. It was good but just not quite right for me. Felt too tall and bulky at the muzzle, shaggy going into the belt slide. The grip just didn’t suit me, made the whole rig feel a mile wide. So adding the better part of $100 more to an already pricy plastic wonder (shipping and tax), I went for broke.

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What a transformation to me. The muzzle not only feels slick and is de-horned but it looks more like the metal frame SIGs I find classic. Whomever did the grip contours got it right, by skill, voodoo, who cares, they nailed it. The Wilson Carry II module, fits either the carry (this one) or the X-compact (flush with slide). I can keep this a while and work with it. Still a flush mag 17-shooter too!

I also wanted a non-Glock

Jim Taylor
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Tuesday, May 31, 2022, 17:56 (1526 days ago) @ WB

and non-polymer
and non striker fired

This little jewel does it all.

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Love the just right Star BM, fantastic 9mm

WB
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Tuesday, May 31, 2022, 18:27 (1526 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

All steel and a hammer. 9-shots with one up the spout, and only 34 oz. The wonder Sig weighs 33-1/4 oz with 17 115gr. In the mag. But it’s fatter and feels overkill compared to that sweet Star.

I'm afraid when the Miliary goes to this

WB
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Wednesday, June 01, 2022, 06:04 (1526 days ago) @ WB

there will be many accidental discharges. You MUST keep your finger off the trigger. You pull the trigger and it goes bang! Get a strap or clothing in that trigger guard while holstering and BANG! It has a great trigger for shooting but the Glock is safer by design. Lots less chance it can be pulled accidentally. Enough go off because people finger that trigger but this one is touchy and has no safety other than the user.

It will require training and discipline.

those straight triggers like on the Sig and other new guns

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, June 01, 2022, 14:11 (1526 days ago) @ WB

take a bit of shooting to get used to them. They are not like the slightly curved trigger like on the 1911s. You can't rest your finger on the trigger. The slightest pressure on the straight or flat triggers is all that is needed for the gun to fire. I am not comfy with one of those triggers at all.

I'm not either, yet. It certainly requires discipline.

WB
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Wednesday, June 01, 2022, 14:40 (1525 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I keep it in it's holster with a covered trigger well. It's an IWB so it's easy to pop on and off. But when it's out, it's ready to fire. You MUST keep your finger out of the trigger guard. This 320 X the trigger is about 5 lbs. and moves maybe 1/4" to fire.

Please explain to me . . .

ORG
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Wednesday, June 01, 2022, 19:12 (1525 days ago) @ WB

. . . what the theoretical advantage of the straight triggers is. I have not tried one but they look awkward to me . . . being an Olde Pharte.

I don't think there really is an advantage, just

gary reeder
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Wednesday, June 01, 2022, 21:05 (1525 days ago) @ ORG

another supposed selling point.

I'm not an advocate either way, but they "Say"

WB
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Thursday, June 02, 2022, 07:42 (1525 days ago) @ gary reeder

the supposed advantage is the leverage change helps to avoid the slight "pull" some shooters experience right at let off. The SIG trigger is said to break at at 90 deg. angle. From looking you can see that is not much movement. I admit I do tend to pull with Glocks to the left unless I shoot often. Getting one cold I have to really think about it. Perhaps it's just my smaller hands.

I have read that the point of your finger tip does influence your tendency to flinch, or pull off. The very tip vs the first knuckle hinge etc. Some small guns, (like the SIG 365) if you have long fingers, it might be the second knuckle hinge! I can see that concept.

I've not shot this new SIG 320 enough yet. I'll keep you posted. BTW Roman HATES my new Wilson grip module. Says it's too small.

Doesn't the military version have an external

ChrisG
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Wednesday, June 01, 2022, 14:19 (1526 days ago) @ WB

safety?

I think you are right. I got one that does not, an X series

WB
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Wednesday, June 01, 2022, 14:37 (1526 days ago) @ ChrisG

It's a give and take. In a military setting one might get shot due to the safety being on and not ready or someone not doing as trained and fingering the bang-button.

I'm just saying it is different from Glocks and may not be the ideal for all people. Just think about it if you go buying semi-autos. The greater shootability comes at a cost. I heard a guy or maybe read a story about a guy that had a double made with no safety. He said when he carried it it was loaded and if it was laid down it was empty.

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