ATF grabbing ar-15 triggers?
SPB
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Saturday, August 20, 2022, 11:13 (1445 days ago)
Anything you order . . .
ORG
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Saturday, August 20, 2022, 20:16 (1444 days ago) @ SPB
. . . online and/or via a credit card can be tracked. Be very careful.
I'd assume if you can buy something face-to-face for cash and no paperwork whatsoever it MIGHT be safe, but ya never know.
Bummer.
wonder why they never did this for the
WoodyS
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Monday, August 22, 2022, 01:12 (1443 days ago) @ ORG
bump stocks for the AR15. I cut mine up and my son cut 6 of them up...he wasnt happy about it but not worth the hassle to be caught with them.
The reason is bump stocks are not illegal
Gary Reeder
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Monday, August 22, 2022, 10:22 (1443 days ago) @ WoodyS
There was no reason to cut them up. Here is the law from the courts..
Federal Ban on Bump Stocks
This was more or less the state of gun control laws in play on the night of October 1, 2017, when a new device, bump stocks, entered the national debate. On that night in Las Vegas, a lone gunman took aim at the gathered crowd below his 37th floor Mandalay suite and opened fire on the attendees of the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival. In ten minutes, with the aid of a bump stock, the shooter unleased over a thousand rounds into the crowd below killing 60 and wounding more than 400 others before dying from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Mechanical devices that increase the rate of fire of a semi-automatic weapon, bump stocks use the gun’s recoil to speed the deliver of cartridges to the chamber faster than a person could typically fire the semi-automatic. The Trump Administration’s Justice Department viewed the device as capable of transforming a heretofore legal semi-automatic weapon into an illegal fully automatic rifle for all intents and purpose. The ban was immediately challenged in court as it wound its way through the appellate process before being struck down by the United States 6th District Court of Appeals court that ruled the justice department had exceeded the scope of its authority in issuing the ban. Currently, bump stocks are not illegal in any state since the ruling came down from the appellate court.
yes, that is true but when that was going thru court
WoodyS
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Monday, August 22, 2022, 21:12 (1442 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
at that particular time it was only on hold for that particular juristiction involved in the lawsuit...from what i understood at that particular time and anyone else had to destroy their bumpstocks...which is why there are none on the market to this day. thats the way i understand it but i could be blowing smoke up the monkeys ass.
they are illegal as of 3/6/19 everywhere..just
WoodyS
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Monday, August 22, 2022, 21:21 (1442 days ago) @ WoodyS
checked on findlaw.com so possession of a bumpstock is 10 years in the pen and up to 250K fine. thats why we cut ours up...a real shame too as i was just getting the hang of it at the time.
The court of appeals says you are wrong.
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, August 23, 2022, 10:18 (1442 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
I will have to go with their findings that are newer than the findings you posted from 2019.