The boys liked the compact and powerful SA .44
WB
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Friday, October 14, 2022, 08:30 (1390 days ago)
I was trying to instill the real world value of a powerful revolver compared to a handy semi-auto that has limitations. The .45 ACP is not a reliable killer on game, while it can do the job. A .44/.45 with 50-100% more power really makes a difference.
While some DA are notably bulky, I feel the Redhawk 5.5" is about max for comfort. What handy and powerful wheelguns do you recommend the boys take a peek at? I think 5.5" barrels would be about max for handiness. You know the boys, .454 and .500's are in the hunt if they are not too bulky.
They were still hung up on semi-autos on the way home. The .50 AE of Roman's is just too big for me. It is accurate and the trigger not too bad, I just don't shoot it well. I have a .460 where I can hot load the .45 in my Glock 21, it's not too bad.
A good Ruger Super Blackhawk is a great way
Gary Reeder
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Friday, October 14, 2022, 12:07 (1389 days ago) @ WB
to get a youngster into shooting (if you have to have a 44 and if so then load them some 44 specials up). A SA 44 Mag can be a bit of a brute with hot loads and that Dragoon trigger guard.
A semi auto is a good hunting gun but only in the perfect situation. I used my Auto Mags and Grizzlys for years and took quite a few critters here in the states and in Africa and as long as I knew my limitations and the gun's limitations it all worked fine. But the original Auto Mags and Grizzlys are the only 2 that I would even think of hunting with. The Desert Eagle is a joke with it's horrible trigger, fixed sights, and a gas system, along with it's weight. Only good for B grade movies.
The Wildey has been gone for several years. I keep hearing it is coming back but who knows. It was never reliable when it was available, except with Charles Bronson in his movies.
The Auto Mag is trying to make a comeback. I hope it makes it but the reports I am getting are not the best. Everyone keeps saying it is coming back and better than before, although with good ammo the old Auto Mags were quite reliable.
The premier handgun hunt was, for over 20 years, the Celebrity Handgun Hunt, held at the Y.O. Ranch in Texas. It was a charity handgun hunt by invitation only and 50 handgun hunters were invited. It cost us somewhere from $995 the first year I was there up to around $1500 the last year, and this was hunting the animal the ranch chose as the animal of the year, usually a Sika Deer, although the Axis Deer was sometimes the pick and Whitetail Deer was sometimes the pick but only once or twice as it was more expensive and we had to buy a state deer hunting tag along with the other expenses. The meat of all the various animals was given to the needy at Christmas so it was for a good cause.
If you wanted to hunt something other than the animal of the year, and they had about every exotic animal there was at the time, then you paid the much higher price for that animal.
Most of the guns used at the hunt were Ruger SA and DA, and the fine Freedom Arms revolvers. There were a few of the model 2008 Freedom Arms single shot there too plus probably half of the 50 hunters used single shot Contenders or Encores in various calibers. I saw a few Grizzlys there and there were a couple of Auto Mags. Good friend John Taffin was there and if I remember right he shot a big Bison with a Ruger Single Action. I was there for 15 years and Kase was there with me the last 4 or 5 years. I used various handguns from my Auto Mags to Grizzlys to custom Ruger DAs. I also used the hunt to try out new calibers I had come up with in the previous 10 or 12 months in custom TCs. In 15 years at the Celebrity Handgun Hunt I only saw 1 Desert Eagle show up, and that was with gun writer Dick Williams who was to do an article on it shooting a large animal. And then it functioned about half the time.
The guys that were willing to pay a minimum of $1500 to be part of the Celebrity Handgun Hunt were a bit more serious about the handgun they used.
Another semi auto hunting handgun was the Wildey. The Wildey with it's gas system is almost as bad as the Desert Eagle but at least it had adjustable sights. Still a big clunky handgun that wouldn't do any more than a Grizzly would at twice the weight.
If a new shooter absolutely has to have a semi auto then the Grizzly would be the choice in my opinion. It was simply a big 1911 chambered in 45 Win Mag or 44 Mag. And it had adjustable sights and the trigger pull could be adjusted down to the perfect weight in a hunting handgun. They did a few in 50 AE but these didn't go over very well. But the Grizzly in a good JHP or JSP 45 Win Mag cartridge was hard to beat. They are expensive but about the same as the Desert Eagle or the Wildey.
What all this gets down to is buy the young shooter a good Ruger Super Blackhawk and it will do anything the guns mentioned above will do. Keep it simple.
BISON (BIG!!) WAS TAKEN WITH
JT
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Friday, October 14, 2022, 13:02 (1389 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
.480 RUGER IN A 4-3/4" FA M83![[image]](images/uploaded/202210142002046349c03cdb519.jpg)
Is that a Y-O blackbuck? 6.5 if I remember.
WB
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Friday, October 14, 2022, 13:33 (1389 days ago) @ JT
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YES AND THE WATERBUCK ALSO
JT
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Friday, October 14, 2022, 15:42 (1389 days ago) @ WB
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This one
Gary Reeder
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Saturday, October 15, 2022, 12:11 (1388 days ago) @ JT
I agree, the 5.5” was stellar. Blue or stainless
WB
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Friday, October 14, 2022, 13:32 (1389 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
It was called a Super Blackhawk but had a fluted cylinder and steel rounded trigger guard. One of their best production line standard offerings. They did some unchanged except for Bisley versions that I think are the very best from Ruger. The .44 and .45 Colt are great but they did offer the same Bisleys in .454 and .480. Any of those would do great and last forever.
The Y-O was great and some of my favorite memories.
Taz Ridley was the head honcho at the Celebrity
Gary Reeder
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Friday, October 14, 2022, 17:37 (1389 days ago) @ WB
Handgun Hunt and was always up to his alligators. One time he was about to go bonkers with all the paperwork and such, so I asked him if I could help. He jumped on it and said hell yes, get me some real handgun people in here. At that time the hunt would be full of old guys who wanted to enjoy the open bar and play poker all night, and never spend a penny. So I got the names and addresses of probably 40 or so Misfit handgun hunters that hang out on here and sent them an invitation. We had probably 90% signed up and for the next 5 or 6 years we have full capacity and had guys that appreciated the chance to hunt on the well known Celebrity Handgun Hunt. Those were some of the best memories ever. That was where I met John Taffin and a lot of the guys on here too. These guys.
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GREAT PICTURES; GREAT MEMORIES
JT
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Tuesday, October 18, 2022, 06:37 (1386 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
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Yep. First big bore I got
IC
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Saturday, October 15, 2022, 14:28 (1388 days ago) @ WB
and I still have it. Gary has worked on it some.
Another limited edition Super Blackhawk was the
Gary Reeder
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Monday, October 17, 2022, 12:49 (1386 days ago) @ WB
4 5/8" version. It had the normal unfluted cylinder and the one I had I hunted with at Tellico Junction and it worked very well. In this pic Kase used his custom 5" 45 Long Colt.
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We customized quite a few of them too.
Th fire gun I shot as an ole Govt. 1911
Sid R
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Saturday, October 15, 2022, 10:06 (1388 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
in 45 ACP. BUT, the first gun I bought and taught my self to shoot was a SBH 44 mag. Taught my self some bad habits too. Worked them out when I got a new R MK II 22. Getting older and I have three kinds of arthritis now the 41 GNR is as big as I want to go. I would think after my experience 45 or 44/40 to learn. 25/20 is perfect.
My first big gun was a .44 SBH
WB
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Saturday, October 15, 2022, 13:27 (1388 days ago) @ Sid R
As a kid it amazed me how much more accurate .44 Special ammo was than .44 Magnums. It took me a while to figure that out. lol
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