Bullet alloys and Mule Deer.

Mark Conner
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 08:54 (1385 days ago)

Over the past year or so I've been playing a lot with different alloys for a hunting bullet in the 455 GNR. The mould is a LBT LFN that was hollow pointed by Eric. The original weight of the solid bullet was 310 grs., after H.P'ing bullet weight was 290 grs.

After trying several different alloys I came back to my good old standby of 50% wheel weights and 50% pure. I shot them both air cooled and water dropped. The A.C. gave more expansion than I really wanted and was leaving some lead in the barrel, not enough that accuracy was ever affected, but more than I wanted.

Combined with the too much (for me) expansion and the little bit of leading I tried W.D. I water drop most of my bullets anyway, they just seem to shoot better in the 455 and the H.P. was no exception. But was it going to make them too hard for reliable expansion?

After recovering numerous bullets it looked as if they were going to do what I was looking for. The top row is obviously the original bullet, middle is the A.C. and bottom is the W.D. Of all the bullets recovered the average weight loss was about 5 grs.[image]

Now for the real test. Deer season in Eastern Washington opened last Saturday, so my Son, G'son and I went out. I did draw an antlerless tag this year but all the does we saw had fawns with them and I really did not want to leave any orphans going into their first winter.

Monday, Jason and I went back for an afternoon hunt. About 4:00 pm the does and fawns started coming out to feed, then about 5:45 this young 4x4 came out. He was at 46 yards when I shot. The 455 and it's cast bullet did exactly what I was hoping they would do. The hole through the lung was a bit over an inch.

Jason did take a very nice 4x4 with eye guards the next day after a 2.25 mile hike into a draw that seems to always hold deer.
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I have always liked WD bullets , easy to do and they

Sean Harper
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 09:08 (1385 days ago) @ Mark Conner

have always been consistent on hardness as long as I get a little sizzle sound when I drop them in the water.
Nice looking gun and good shooting.

Sean

Thank you Sean.

Mark Conner
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 09:31 (1385 days ago) @ Sean Harper

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A sincere "well done" from bullet to deer..

james
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 11:16 (1385 days ago) @ Mark Conner

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Thanks James

Mark Conner
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 12:13 (1384 days ago) @ james

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Good work!

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 12:09 (1384 days ago) @ Mark Conner

I shot quite a few desert Mulies in Arizona with heavy .45 Colt loads and plain wheelweight cast bullets. A shot through the shoulders or just behind sometimes resulted in a short run and then a pile-up. I used both the Keith SWC and the 457191 300 gr. .45-90 bullet at first. Later I used LBT LFN's but always returned to the Keith SWC. Never worried whether they expanded or not and never recovered a bullet so I suppose they didn't .. but they worked.

That is also what I have seen with cast

Mark Conner
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 12:40 (1384 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

bullet performance. I just wanted to try a hollow point. Mostly I think I just wanted to play around with some different alloys and bullet styles.

The reaction of the deer to being shot in the chest was as you describe, and typical to the few that I've seen before. A jump and kick with a short run, stop, wobble and fall over.

This bullet was a pass through, but with the damage inside and the exit hole I think there was some expansion. Also took out ribs going in and out.

Nice buck! good shooting

Amede
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 16:05 (1384 days ago) @ Mark Conner

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Thank you Sir.

Mark Conner
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 16:34 (1384 days ago) @ Amede

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Interesting and congratulations on the deer

Brent Foy
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 17:29 (1384 days ago) @ Mark Conner

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Thank you Brent

Mark Conner
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Wednesday, October 19, 2022, 18:46 (1384 days ago) @ Brent Foy

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Excellent shooting .

John W
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Thursday, October 20, 2022, 03:03 (1384 days ago) @ Mark Conner

What techniques did you use to hunt the deer? I'm familiar with whitetails here in New England but I am intrigued with mule deer.

John, my technique is mostly

Mark Conner
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Thursday, October 20, 2022, 08:56 (1384 days ago) @ John W

just plain ole dumb luck. My favorite way to hunt them is spot and stalk, but as you can see in the picture, cover is a little thin in that area.

This is a transition area between bedding and feed. There are 3 places to sit that have cover. Two of them are broken down center pivots that have been moved out of the fields and replaced with new, and the third is a small pile of rock.

It's just luck on which one something may walk by. Does and fawns, take your pick any of the three will have deer go by them. To tell you the truth, I was really surprised to see this guy out so early. Usually after the season starts the bucks turn nocturnal around here.

So now you know as much about Mule Deer hunting as I do.

Congratulations nice Buck, good shooting and

Blake
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Thursday, October 20, 2022, 04:41 (1384 days ago) @ Mark Conner

Handgun hunting in its purest form. That’s the kind of day we live all year for. Congratulations again.

Thank you Blake

Mark Conner
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Thursday, October 20, 2022, 08:24 (1384 days ago) @ Blake

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That’s really satisfying to see your work

WB
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Thursday, October 20, 2022, 10:54 (1384 days ago) @ Mark Conner

Come full into fruition! Hats off to you!

Scott, thanks a lot.

Mark Conner
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Thursday, October 20, 2022, 11:43 (1383 days ago) @ WB

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