While I am a single action sixgun guy ....

Jim Taylor
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 12:57 (1323 days ago)

I do have a few double action revolvers. Among them are some S&W Model 10's ... one of the better products that S&W has put out. In production for 123 years, it has of course gone through improvements and modifications. Yet it is still one of the guns that S&W sells the most of.

I bought my first one when I was a Corrections Officer with the Department of Corrections. It was our issue handgun and I was able to buy a new one at a fairly decent discount.

Over the years it was confiscated by my wife and became her gun. She shot Combat Matches with it and won quite a few, even when competing against ladies with auto-loaders. She wasn't as fast but she rarely missed.

The only modifications I made to the Model 10 was to remove the serrations on the trigger and add a set of stocks made by my old friend Deacon Deason of Bear Hug Grips.

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I also have one that I finished putting together. I bought it without a barrel, then gathered up all the parts I would need and got it running. It's worn but still tight and shoots well, so it has its place.

When I first got it:
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Later:
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We also have a light barreled one.
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The Model 10 is one of the best double action sixguns when rating ease of use and reliability as far as I am concerned. It is light, easy to pack, has an excellent trigger, points well and is not hard to keep running.

While the .38 Special cartridge does not elicit any excitement, the special squad headed by Jim Cirillo years ago in New York to deal with the robbery problem there learned by using good tactics and marksmanship to come out on top in a lot of gunfights .. even with the old wimply 158 grain round-nose load.

And in these days, you can get over 2300 factory velocity reloads from 1 pound of Bullseye powder. That ain't a bad deal.

STILL A GREAT WORKHORSE!

JT
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 13:50 (1323 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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Jim Cirillo had the NYPD rookies concentrate

james
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 21:27 (1323 days ago) @ JT

on the front sight during training and hits on bad guys went up considerably... His gunfights are legendary.... This is one of a couple of model 10`s that belonged to my Sheriff Officer cousin. He had one for ceremonies and one for duty... [image]

Nice!

Jim Taylor
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Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 07:35 (1322 days ago) @ james

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Only 38 I have is an old Arminius Titan Tiger

Derek
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Wednesday, December 21, 2022, 15:18 (1321 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

Old pot metal frame 38. Need to rectify this after the new year sometime, think the LGS may have some old model 10s.

Jim Cirillo

Baxter6551
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Thursday, December 22, 2022, 18:18 (1320 days ago) @ james

I just finished reading the book “Jim Cirillo’s Tales of the Stakeout Squad” by Paul Kirchner. Fascinating. What a life and career. And the absolute truth about front sight focus. [image]

S&W Model 10s are plain vanilla

AkRay
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 13:55 (1323 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

but they work. They're a great combination of size, weight, power and reliability gathered together in an accurate handgun.

I've had a couple over the years and then

Amede
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 14:04 (1323 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

eventually settled on a mod 65. I've shot a lot of 38 out of it but have the option for 357 when needed. Makes a great backpack pistol being stainless and a bit lighter than a lot of other 357s.

I like the K frame guns. They are just "handy" ..

Jim Taylor
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 14:16 (1323 days ago) @ Amede

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I've a soft spot for the old 38 Spl

AmBraCol ⌂, The Center Of God's Grace
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 14:50 (1323 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

and have never owned a 357 magnum. The 38 is my most loaded, most shot caliber when up north and my only caliber here in Coffee Country as far as cartridge arms go.

I keep looking at those J&G specials. If I could locate a 6" barrel for it I'd be tempted to pick one up next summer and set it up for target use. Yeah, it's not as "sexy" as an adjustable sighted gun and not as packable as my 4" HB, but I miss having a 6" 38 in the stable, they make a great tractor gun if you're only looking for small game and snakes.

A 125 to 160 grain cast lead projectile over a sort of some fast powder makes for a dandy shooting package. I ran a bunch of them through my old Rossi back in the day. Had a load made up with a Lyman wadcutter lubed with my stingless bees' wax home made lube and pushed out the barrel by a 22 LR case of Especial de Caça (roughly same burn rate as Bullseye) that the old Rossi simply loved. Didn't have a lot of punch to it, but was accurate as could be. I'd love to try a similar load on ground squirrels one day.

Anyway, I've been cogitating on the project ever since I first saw pics of your HB made up on the J&G base gun. Are those J&G's all RB models?

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Jim Taylor
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 15:00 (1323 days ago) @ AmBraCol

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I see yours originally had a snubby barrel on it

WB
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 15:30 (1323 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I hope you still have the short ejector rod, they are hard to find.

I have several .38's but only this "Pre" Model 10. Not sure when it was made (S&W serials are a bit of a mystery) but what an odd duck. My Great Uncle Waymon Goree kept it in his Patrol car as a "drop gun" for emergency. So the family story goes. It's actual origins are a bit shaded. Uncle Waymon was our local Chief of Police the year I was born 1963. Actually, also the year Kennedy was killed by the Mafia via the CIA. I have a photo of me as a very small baby with his Chief's hat on. I am barely big enough to sit unassisted.

I ended up with his 2" .38 after he passed from his nephew, my Uncle Ed, who also became police Chief of a couple small towns in our area. The Deputy badge was Ed's father, my Grandfather's, who was a member of the mounted patrol (horses).

This Pre-M10 has very odd ergonomics, not at all like a normal later M10. I can hardly reach the trigger DA, it's very awkward. The trigger shoe I got from Gary, and it's very helpful for me to reach the trigger, I NEEDED it, thanks again so much Gary! I found a home for every one you've ever given me. The gun is a re-chrome. Nickel guns have case colored hammer/triggers and nickel just looks different. I have the grip adapter (also much needed) and later 1980's grips. Note the barrel is off a M10 built much later than the rest of the gun. But it seems it was chromed with that odd barrel on it. What a mongrel. But boy it shoots great. The cylinder is a bit loose from a worn locking bolt. They make oversize replacements where I could fit it to be tight as Dick's hat band, if I wanted to. But it's fine for now. The 130 gr. RN FMJ military ammo is what he carried on duty back then.

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I guess I should have said "1899 Hand Ejector Military & Pol

WB
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Monday, December 19, 2022, 16:00 (1323 days ago) @ WB

Not sure what series 1-4th changes, 1905 model produced in 1915 (it's a bit confusing). The sights are very small, not at all like my later "Victory" model produced in 1941. The first 2" K-frame was factory built in 1936! I'm not sure if this gun was one of the early 1936-41 period pieces but that's my guess.

.38s

JT
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Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 08:31 (1322 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

Looking Good JT!

Jim Taylor
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Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 09:15 (1322 days ago) @ JT

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I will have to admit that I am the only man

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 14:56 (1322 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

in 47 states that (as far as I can remember) does not have a 38 special revolver. Colleen has a 2" S&W model 66 in 357 Mag but I don't think that counts as a 38. I feel neglected.

I've not "bought" any of mine, they just happen.

WB
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Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 17:01 (1322 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I inherited them. Pre-10 snubby: great uncle Waymon, Victory Model: grandpaw Goree, Rossi 88: old friend, David. Heirlooms, one for each kid. Not really worth that much but sentimental and utility galore.

I do not have one either --do have a model-28-2

Lynn41
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Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 18:28 (1322 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I also really like the heavy barrel M10 reminds of a M58

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