Modern Handguns

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 07:00 (1201 days ago)

In an article on how the Weaver Stance originated, the author wrote of Jack Weaver who started it; "Like many of us who appreciate the aesthetics of things, Jack feels modern pistols have lost much of their visual appeal. “To me, a pistol is a thing of beauty,” he tells me. “And you’ve got to really love the thing before you can shoot with it.”

When I read that I thought, "He nailed it!"

Lost! Visual! Appeal!

Example: Looking at these modern pistols many of them appear as if they came out of the same mold.

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And if something works well I can understand copying it. However for me, the appeal is not there.

As to material, "Polymer" is not the name of a material. To say "it's made out of polymer." is misleading. The correct way to say it is "It is made of a polymer." which in the case of firearms, is a type of plastic. The gun makers don't like to call their guns "plastic" so they misuse the term "polymer" to keep from doing that.

"A polymer is a chemical compound with molecules bonded together in long, repeating chains. Because of their structure, polymers have unique properties that can be tailored for different uses. Polymers are both man-made and naturally occurring. Rubber, for example, is a natural polymeric material that has been used for thousands of years."
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-a-polymer-820536

"A polymer (Greek poly-, "many" + -mer, "part") is a substance or material consisting of very large molecules called macromolecules, composed of many repeating subunits. Due to their broad spectrum of properties, both synthetic and natural polymers play essential and ubiquitous roles in everyday life. Polymers range from familiar synthetic plastics such as polystyrene to natural biopolymers such as DNA and proteins that are fundamental to biological structure and function. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymer

Plastic polymers can be very strong and hold up well as has been demonstrated by their use in manufacturing for quite some time now. However, no matter how well they work, polymer firearms will never be on the same level of "visual appeal" as those made of steel and wood. Or with elephant's tusk as part of the firearm. Or with engraving and gold inlay. Or a myriad of other things custom smiths like Gary do to make these tools even more attractive.

Most beautiful sixgun I've ever seen!

JT
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 07:24 (1201 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I could not get the picture to upload but go to the Taurus website and check out the new Raging Hunter 460 10 inch with muzzle brake, rails, kitchen sink..............

This thing?

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 08:09 (1201 days ago) @ JT

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John! Clean your glasses!

Mr JT, while I did buy a Raging Hunter 357 Mag

Sean Harper
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 08:20 (1201 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

because of the article you wrote, that on the other-hand is a mess.:-D

Sean

I am sure he was being facetious & not serious.

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 08:25 (1201 days ago) @ Sean Harper

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LOL...........

Sean Harper
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 09:40 (1201 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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SBH #41

james
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 20:53 (1201 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I ALSO BOUGHT THE .357

JT
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 10:40 (1201 days ago) @ Sean Harper

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NO BELLS, NO WHISTLES , NO

JT
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:43 (1201 days ago) @ JT

KITCHEN SINK ON .357.JUST AN EXCELLENT ACCURATE SIXGUN

Yes , I put a Leupold 4X on mine , 6 .75" barrel.

Sean Harper
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 13:04 (1201 days ago) @ JT

I usually shoot the MP mold 358429 GC bullet or MP 165gr WFNGC bullet.

Sean

A THING OF TRUE BEAUTY! I THINK

JT
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 10:41 (1201 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I HEAR SKEETER AND ELMER SAYING !@#$%^&&^%$#@#$%^&*

I wouldn’t own that if it shot 1” @ 300 yards

Howard
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 16:30 (1201 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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FOR 1" I'D THINK SERIOUSLY

JT
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Thursday, April 20, 2023, 09:01 (1200 days ago) @ Howard

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That gun is like a fat girl and a Moped, you

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, April 20, 2023, 21:32 (1200 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

wouldn't want your friends to see you with one.

YES BUT YOU MIGHT ENJOY

JT
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Saturday, April 22, 2023, 08:48 (1198 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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Now, this is a beauty.

SPB
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:36 (1201 days ago) @ JT

TRUE BEAUTIES

JT
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:46 (1201 days ago) @ SPB

That is the way my guns should be. The Glock and all

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 16:32 (1201 days ago) @ JT

it's copies are "perfect" military and police guns but I could never force myself to carry one.

indeed

Lynn41
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Friday, April 21, 2023, 19:18 (1199 days ago) @ JT

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Preach on... of late though

WB
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:44 (1201 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

the computerized design technology has allowed manufacturers to truly "nail" ergonomics, reliability, and handling qualities, never before truly mastered, at a price that is proportionally much less than it has ever been before. Modern plastic wonders can be had that are literally a part of extension of you that were almost impossible to achieve with metal and certainly could not be produced affordably.

Of just that line up the Glock 19/23 simply works and shoots where pointed, every time, with absolutely no fuss, little effort, and no soul. The Kahr is a spacegun compared to what I listed over in the 1980's. A 16-18 oz. .45 ACP DA that has no extra buttons, is completely safe to carry loaded, and can even use some 1911 mags. The German Walther is made like the German think a pistol should be (because everyone else is wrong). But by golly the ergonomics are incredible. It points like an angry grandmother. The little Taurus G2/3 is a fantastic little gun and costs less than $300 on sale!

To play devil's advocate and quote JT "these are the good O'l days" - in gunsport.

Tools for a specific purpose! If you fall in the

Derek
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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 13:36 (1201 days ago) @ WB

Creek and gum it up, I wouldn't feel bad about cleaning it out in the creek .
A nice six gun all mudded up , I would be mad at myself for being clumsy.

For sure though, the plastic guns all look the same, the only appeal is a utilitarian tool.

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