I just bought one of the inexpensive
WB
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Thursday, June 15, 2023, 09:16 (1144 days ago)
Ruger American Ranch bolt rifles in .300 AAC. Do they use "AR type" mags? I know the .300 needs the "no rib" mags to feed well. This one was really dirt cheap from a large GS and looked interesting for cast bullets with a shush tube.
I played with the caliber early on but it threw my brass in the bushes and non-coated cast was dirty in the gas system. This hopefully will be more successful testing trials 2.0 or I can always just flip it.
Shoot, I think I figured out why it was so cheap
WB
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Thursday, June 15, 2023, 13:24 (1144 days ago) @ WB
The earlier rotary type mag guns are less desirable than the late models that take AR type mags.
bitch, bitch, bitch. You would bitch if you were hung with a
Gary Reeder
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Thursday, June 15, 2023, 13:30 (1144 days ago) @ WB
brand new rope.
Well there is more to the story on RAR
WB
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Thursday, June 15, 2023, 15:06 (1144 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
The very first Ruger American Ranch rifles have a flush fit plastic rotary mag. Lots of negative press about them. But the main thing I see is you load them by pressing straight down on the cartridges, not sliding them in the front. Maybe that is some of these guys problems.
The bolts are a little different design also on the underside. They are basically solid all the way to the lugs.
Then they had a revision but still used the same mags. There was an insert portion around the flush fit mags. This portion can be swapped out for a special adapter at around $20 that adapts it to AR style mags. The bolts were changed on the underside to allow this. The underside of the bolt body is milled out to interface with the AR type mags. Earlier ones are not (solid) and cannot be converted. So I read.
Finally the rifles are NOW produced directly to use AR type mags. And some complain that they now stick out! Those fellows are the type you described. LOL
So this very early gun has a bolt and stock design that cannot be readily adapted to a more current type. Be aware trading for this type those informed may find it less desirable. One in your shop might be a slow mover. But for $250 I'm not going to complain. I did learn a lot today about it all.
If all else fails, send it back to Ruger and ask them
Gary Reeder
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Thursday, June 15, 2023, 15:17 (1144 days ago) @ WB
to convert it to the current style, if it can be done. The Ruger folks are good people. If it is in any way their fault they will make it right.
I think it will be OK, but it can't be converted
WB
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Thursday, June 15, 2023, 15:41 (1144 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
that is the point. Why this odd type is a whole bunch cheaper on the used rack. I just thought some folks might like to know the inside scoop. The early bolts are solid on the underside and won't feed right from a double stack mag even if you found a used or different stock. That's the story...
But the new ones are fantastic I'm told.
300 AAC cast
Randy Barnett
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Friday, June 16, 2023, 03:31 (1143 days ago) @ WB
I have a Howa 1500 bolt action in 300 AAC. With a can it is Hollywood quiet.
These powder coated cast bullet yield outstanding accuracy.
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I like the Ruger American Ranch but I jumped too fast
WB
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Friday, June 16, 2023, 09:36 (1143 days ago) @ Randy Barnett
I didn't know about the earliest version RAR's and the spiral rotary mags. The bolts and stocks are different. But for $250 I can't go wrong. I was seduced by a cheap platform to tinker. I have some flat nosed .30-30 bullets that I figure will provide some whack at subsonic speeds. Those pointy bullets do tumble and yaw after hitting things. I know you have lots more experience than me with subsonics.
Really a .45 cal. platform would be more effective to me but the added expense of the suppressor etc. I'm not all in, just tinkering at this point.
WOW, what powder do you use?
steve todd
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Friday, June 16, 2023, 15:26 (1143 days ago) @ Randy Barnett
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Eastwood and
Randy Barnett
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Saturday, June 17, 2023, 08:15 (1142 days ago) @ steve todd
Smokes from the Cast Bullet forum. This green is from Smokes.
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Actually i was wondering about gunpowder
steve todd
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Saturday, June 17, 2023, 14:27 (1142 days ago) @ Randy Barnett
To get the consistency, the chronograph numbers look really good.
Yes the Eastwood powdercoat is great stuff, i use it too.
AA#9
Randy Barnett
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Saturday, June 17, 2023, 17:45 (1142 days ago) @ steve todd
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Thank You!
steve todd
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Saturday, June 17, 2023, 20:32 (1142 days ago) @ Randy Barnett
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