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FSimon
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Wednesday, December 06, 2023, 11:26 (969 days ago)
Gary do you have any Blackwidows in stock or coming up for sale in 44 spec or larger for sale? Thanks Frank
We are working on one right now. It will be
Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, December 06, 2023, 11:35 (969 days ago) @ FSimon
probably 10 days to 2 weeks before it is finished. As we go along I will try to remember to post pics of it in progress.
Black widow
FSimon
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Wednesday, December 06, 2023, 11:45 (969 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
What caliber???
The original way back in 1987 was in 44 Magnum and
Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, December 06, 2023, 11:51 (969 days ago) @ FSimon
normally I try to stick to that unless I have an order for one in another caliber so as of right now I have not made the cylinder for it so it has not been designated any caliber yet.
Author John Ramsey Miller had a Black Widow in .410 GNR
WB
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Thursday, December 07, 2023, 15:14 (968 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
outfitted with a Burris 2x scope, no sights. We both set out to shoot Bison with handgun at one of the TN HHC's. John pulled down on a cow Bison around 45 yds. distant and fired. Water threw in the air some 50-75 yds beyond the Bison. She didn't even flinch. John adjusted his point of aim and fired again. Same result, a spew of water and mud, off beyond the animal. She still didn't move. It was getting pretty noisy by then and she finally turned around. That is when we could see a little bit of pink lung tissue poking from a side wound exit hole. He did NOT miss but had two solid lung hits. The 255 gr. hard cast LBT bullet sailed through without hitting any bones at all (by odd chance) and seemingly lost little velocity. I think they were running close to 1500+ fps. We had quite a chase on after that which required two more to finally put the hardy beast down. It was a memorable experience.
I was second up and had my .510 GNR #6 Improved. From Gary's original publication I remembered his load of only 1000 fps sailing right through Bison that he harvested. My home designed 410 gr. slug (a shortened version of the .50-70 Govt. 450 gr. carbine bullet) was running 1050-1100 fps. Still hard to hang onto. Not wanting to make the same issue as John I aimed at the shoulder bone at about 25 yds. A solid hit put the young bull on his nose, he couldn't move. Down for good but still alive. The bullet too passed right though BOTH shoulder bones and lungs. A second shot did the same. I had to wait as the other bulls came upon the wounded bull and gave him a poke with a horn or head butted him gently. The guide told me a sign of change in pecking order of the heard. After they all got finished we approached and I shot him in the neck. Where GNR told me to in the first place. Lights out , DRT. But I didn't think I could hit the 2-3" neck bone shooting offhand initially. I took the safe route. All shots passed through completely.
You may have seen this pic several times. That's the story that goes along with it, linked to the Black Widow. Made me think of it. Good times.
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The .410 GNR Black Widow was way more than what was needed to do the job. John lost his wife to cancer and money got tight, he lost interest and sold the gun to a willing enthusiast. It's out there somewhere!
John"s Black Widow
Mark Wilson
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Thursday, December 07, 2023, 16:23 (968 days ago) @ WB
Scott, I bought John"s Black Widow back during the Obama years.
His wife had not died and while I have lost touch I am pretty sure they are both still alive and well.
He sold it and several other guns due to the downturn in the economy. Bantam books dropped him as paperback sales crashed with so few people flying at the time.
I think you may be confusing him with Bill Firman. Bill lost his wife, but has remarried and is doing well last I heard.
Thanks for the correction, I’m friends with them both
WB
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Thursday, December 07, 2023, 17:00 (968 days ago) @ Mark Wilson
Miller indeed lost this wife to breast cancer, just 3-4 yrs. ago. She had beaten it several years earlier. I spoke to him about two years ago working on some writing stuff. He did a pilot on one of his new stories. He was very excited about it.
Firman too lost his long time wife but remarried. He’s looking good and still sharp as ever.
This him?
Derek
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Thursday, December 07, 2023, 18:30 (968 days ago) @ WB
https://www.mswritersandmusicians.com/mississippi-writers/john-ramsey-miller
If so he's just down the road about half an hour in Gold Hill, NC. May try and find a book or 2.
Yep that’s JRM. Very interesting fellow.
WB
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Thursday, December 07, 2023, 20:59 (967 days ago) @ Derek
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look up 3 posts for a couple of pics of JRM
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, December 12, 2023, 13:14 (963 days ago) @ Derek
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John Ramsey Miller...a good friend and
Gary Reeder
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Thursday, December 07, 2023, 17:42 (968 days ago) @ WB
excellent author. He wrote several books before he quit and went into business with his son.
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The Ultimate BW in 475L is the 1st gun Gary built for me a
drdougrx
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Saturday, December 09, 2023, 06:15 (966 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
decade ago. Still one of my favorites!