All those westerns and such, everyone with a shinny winny

WB
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Wednesday, April 23, 2025, 12:40 (227 days ago)

Model 1892, every once in a while you may see a 1894. No Marlins! One Eastwood movie had baddies with a scoped 1899 Savage and Mauser 1898 machine carbine. What calibers were they all supposed to be? .25,.32, .38, .44? Never made a ‘92 in .45. And a 1973 Colt, of course. No other models. In real life it sure would have been a different scene. Muzzleloaders, shotguns, old Trapdoors. Surplus Remington and Colt C&B. Bunches of DA revolvers and little top breaks, European guns galore, pinafore even, post 1900. The “Wild Bunch” got it closer.

It would depend upon

IC
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Wednesday, April 23, 2025, 13:31 (227 days ago) @ WB

what time frame the movie was portraying. The 1895 and 1899 Savages would have been 303 Savage before 1900. The 92 Winchester (as you know) could have been 32-20, 38-40, 44-40, and after 1895, 25-20. The 44-40 is said to have been the best seller. On the other hand, most movies don't care.

Remember the old move " Night of the Grizzly"

Derek
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Thursday, April 24, 2025, 07:24 (227 days ago) @ WB

Ol Clint Walker was using an 1873 in 44/40 lol.
I would not want to betrapped under that log with a bear scratching at me with only a bowie knife !

I guess that would have been the most potent "carbine"

WB
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Thursday, April 24, 2025, 09:28 (226 days ago) @ Derek

pistol caliber back then. But it's not a hill of beans different from the .38-40. A 180 gr. vs. 200 gr. at identical speed. The .401 vs .427 bullets surely are so close as to be about nil difference.

For some

Jim Taylor
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Thursday, April 24, 2025, 10:34 (226 days ago) @ WB

the choice would have depended on whether they had a sixgun and what caliber it was.

It impressed me about Keith writing about

WB
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Thursday, April 24, 2025, 11:31 (226 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

buying his lead in ingots, powder in kegs, and bulk components. It seemed impractical to buy individual cartridges and due to the remoteness, they had to construct things themselves. Of course he had to for .22 rimfire and such. He was born in 1899 or so, the time frame had to be in the teens. He was 12 in 1911 when hurt in the fire. His C&B escapades might have been a bit before then, and in MS? I think the fire was when they first got to MT?

The prospect of having like calibers in rifle and handgun must have had to been by desire, rather than happenstance. I can see how handy that could have been. Again, no .25-20 handguns nor .45 Colt Carbines. In real life it was pretty limited. Thank heavens for the .22 rimfire!

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