Since pocket pistols are for close work
Jim Taylor
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Sunday, July 19, 2026, 08:08 (3 days ago)
the S&W 317 .22 Long Rifle is a good choice. It doesn't weigh anything even fully loaded. 7 shots. And is kind of reminiscent of the first S&W cartridge revolver.
Some will cry "CALIBER" but 2 or 3 shots to the sinus cavities will deter most anything, even with a .22.
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Good to see . . .
ORG
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Sunday, July 19, 2026, 11:00 (3 days ago) @ Jim Taylor
. . . someone pointing this out. Way too many "experts" pooh-pooh the .22LR as a defensive round, but few volunteer to be a test subject.
I have a 2" 34-1 that fills the bill nicely.
The first cartridge self defense pistol was a .22
Jim Taylor
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Sunday, July 19, 2026, 13:30 (3 days ago) @ ORG
The S&W Model 1 first produced in 1857. This was not a military weapon but was sold to the civilian market for self defense. It held 7 rounds of .22 Short. (The Long Rifle had not yet been invented.)
It didn't have much power but no one wanted to be shot with one.
I've tested .22 Short and CB caps
WB
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Monday, July 20, 2026, 09:17 (2 days ago) @ Jim Taylor
From a short revolver they run about 600 fps. Good pellet gun performance for the 29 gr. I bet it would really hurt! I know of accidents where folks succumbed to pellet gun shootings. But is admittedly is pretty unlikely and rare.
Lots of folks carry those tiny little NA Arms .22 Mags. Those run 800-900 fps for the 45 gr.
Oh a snubby 34, really nice! My uncle had
WB
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Monday, July 20, 2026, 09:09 (2 days ago) @ ORG
the Airweight version. I'm not sure he even fired it but he sure did cherish it.Passed some 20 yrs. ago. I hope one of my cousins still have it.
Mine's steel.
ORG
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Monday, July 20, 2026, 18:58 (1 day, 16 hours, 15 min. ago) @ WB
Adjustable sights. I cannot believe how accurate it is. Truly amazing, particularly in my hands. 
I love it when I find a gun that fits me.
Jim Taylor
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Tuesday, July 21, 2026, 06:29 (1 day, 4 hours, 44 min. ago) @ ORG
I shoot it and it seems laser-guided.
I've had a few like that ... and still have them. Sadly, the older I've gotten the less "guided" the shots have been. But it ain't the gun's fault.
Especially with Gary’s flat point tool being used on it.
SPB
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Sunday, July 19, 2026, 14:21 (3 days ago) @ Jim Taylor
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