.355 GNR

Brent Clark
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Friday, February 09, 2018, 15:56 (2899 days ago)

I’ve gotten around to shooting the American Hammer Marlin 336 in .355 GNR this week. Thought I would post some things I learned.
First, I haven’t done any fire forming to this point. I started with new Hornady .30-30 cases. I used Ramshot Enforcer to just below the shoulder and a 1/4 sheet of toilet tissue tamped down on top. As a side note the primer pockets on this batch were extremely tight. I had to use my press to seat them rather than the usual hand priming tool, and still had a few that I had to shoot twice to get to ignite. Maybe this is typical of Hornady brass? I had varying degrees of success with the forming. Some expanded to .35 caliber while others were still at .30 caliber. You can kinda see from the pic all the irregularities. At this point I had Gary take a look and he said to go ahead and size them carefully and with the inside of necks lubed. Next time I wouldn’t be afraid to fill the cases up to the shoulder and as Gary suggested maybe a bit more tissue to hold the burn back a little more. [image]I used One Shot and went slow and didn’t have any problems. They looked better but still pretty rough. I made sure they would chamber and went ahead with the starting load of H335 and a Speer 180 gr. I tried putting a light crimp on one and it wouldn’t chamber. With all the wrinkles and such the crimp caused problems so I just loaded without a crimp this time around and just single fed them. I had time to fire a few and offhand at 50 yards they were very accurate (for my ability). The gun has the red fiber optic front sight and XS peep rear sight, a perfect combo for this type of rifle. It’s a very nice gun and shoots about like a .30-30 as far as recoil but is easy to see that it is much more powerful. It’s gonna be a fun one.
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355 GNR

Alcorn
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Friday, February 09, 2018, 16:57 (2899 days ago) @ Brent Clark

I have a contender in 355 GNR. I have not got very far with load development. I used win. 150gr. Factory loads and got 100 out of 100 perfectly fireformed.

I had some old 100 grain half jacket 30 caliber

Gary Reeder
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Friday, February 09, 2018, 17:48 (2898 days ago) @ Alcorn

bullets that I loaded up and they fireformed perfect every shot. Normally I just use the pistol powder like AA#7, 2400, etc to the shoulder and the ball of toilet tissue but I found these old Speer bullets in a box above my bench. Not even sure they were Speer as they were just in a cardboard box and someone had written Speer on them. I knew I would never use them for anything but fireforming so I tried them and they worked fine.

below, left to right, 355 GNR and 366 Falcon

Gary Reeder
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Friday, February 09, 2018, 17:57 (2898 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Nice write-up Brent. Enjoy the pictures.

Darryl T.
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Friday, February 09, 2018, 18:29 (2898 days ago) @ Brent Clark

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First real firing

Brent Clark
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Friday, February 09, 2018, 18:32 (2898 days ago) @ Brent Clark

The cases turned out perfect after the first firing with H335 and a 180 gr bullet. I guess if there was a point to my posting it is that with a little work the cases turn out looking good and will shoot great despite looking a little rough in the process. Thought there might be more people like me with less experience that would like to know not to get discouraged.
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.30-30 is pretty to open up to .35 with one pass

WB
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Saturday, February 10, 2018, 20:20 (2897 days ago) @ Brent Clark

You can sink de-primed cases in a pie pan full of water up to the shoulders. Just a second or two with a propane torch to change color to silver will anneal even case necks old and previously fired.

Younger cases can be inside neck lubed a little then simply run through the .355 sizer. I like to do it in two runs, half then all the way through. If you have it, an intermediate .338 expander ball (screws right on your existing de-cap rod in place of the .355") would be even better. Then the .358". Just load those and fire form.

For fireforming via "blanks" I have had outstanding luck with faster ball or small grain powders like AA#7. Bullseye and Unique too but the small/ball AA#7 has less air space between granules and just seems to do better for me.

Great pics.

process

Chris Vrtiska
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Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 16:09 (2433 days ago) @ WB

Forgive me, I have never reloaded metallic cartridges let alone a wildcat. So,just exactly how do you go about fire forming the brass? Could you just buy some off the Shelf Federal 30-30 and shoot them?
Then what next? Cleaning brass? lubing? What kind of dies are you using?
I love the idea of this cartridge for a 336 with a 24" barrel, I think with the 220grain Speer, would be great elk lever gun, even out past 250yards
But I want to have all info before I dive into this and have no experience with this process

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