Thankfully I can say it here....

WB
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 07:42 (3096 days ago)

Loading the GNR cartridges are as easy as resizing brass and adding the components. Gary sees that as a big consideration in design. I have a delirious fun time at it. Any minor snafus I can figure out the origin and fix them myself.

I'm a member of another forum that focuses on LEE products. I have some LEE stuff but anyone with a pea sized brain knows it's more economy grade and requires some finesse and babying a little. Of all things good in this world I'd NEVER pick a LEE progressive loader over something more proven and substantial. Many of the parts are plastic and pot metal, cheap pot metal. It is amazing guys get done what they do. But the questions that get asked and posted are mind numbing and even scary. If they don't know THAT what in the world are they loading for in the first place?! Seems some want to try reloading and go right out and buy the top end LEE progressive kit. What a horrific mistake! That limits one to a single caliber without a very prolonged swap kit and tune. You can swap calibers but what a pain. I get all sweaty at thinking how a novice might be trying to figure things out, putting primers in sideways, crumpling cases, not dumping powder, no crimp etc. I could see a progressive kit for a few high volume calibers you shoot but mercy, you need a single stage set up on the bench too. If nothing else it teaches the basic principals in an understandable format rather than managing 6 things happening all at once.

I wish I could tell these guys to go buy GOOD single stage set up to LEARN how to load first. I tried that once and they almost banned me, lots of actual hate comments. You know me, I was being very diplomatic and kind. It was in the form of a suggestive concept. I had no idea that many Liberals enjoyed (progressive) reloading!

My first press was a Lee Turret over 30 years ago.

Darryl T.
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 08:24 (3096 days ago) @ WB

Still ticking. I've added a Lyman turret a couple of Hornady LNL progressive's and couldn't be without a Rock Chucker.
I really like Lee dies too.

Yes, amny innovative items, still family owned too

WB
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 09:07 (3096 days ago) @ Darryl T.

Mr. Lee passed a few years back though. The less expensive dies, moulds, innovative bullet sizers, all are a boon to the industry. I think their availability help to stabilize costs from other sellers! Were it not for Lee keeping everyone honest you'd be shelling out $100 per for moulds and dies.

As Jim said there is some satisfaction in keeping a .30 cal. ammo can filled with a complete kit; bullets, powder, primers, mould, load kit, etc. Hauling it out for an hour or two really is satisfying. It's not just the shooting. I'd buy a .380 Lee hand kit right now if they made them, or I could find a 310 Lyman die set.

Try this link, they may have 310 Lyman .380 dies

SMH
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 11:25 (3096 days ago) @ WB

The 310 Shop
Rick Morrill
4237 Boxwood Drive
Denton, Texas 76208
940-271-1222

http://cnyauctions.com/the310shop.htm

Whoo! They got it. Maybe he'd buy some of my stuff. lol

WB
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 11:42 (3096 days ago) @ SMH

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WB Do you have any 400GNR 155 xtp data

larry fouse
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 14:19 (3096 days ago) @ WB

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Nope, I have not used bullets that light in 10mm

WB
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 20:44 (3095 days ago) @ larry fouse

I know Nosler even makes a 135 gr. At the speeds possible it would be good for varmints only, super explosive! I used to shoot .44 mag 180 gr. Serria's at 2200 fps from my Marlin 1894 and it was devastating. We shot a 20 lb. watermelon once and it just disappeared! The dust under it was still powder!

I GOT 135,155,170,180,200 GRAIN JHP&XTP ALSO HAVE 190 FMJ

larry fouse
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 22:03 (3095 days ago) @ WB

IN .400 I USE THEM IN 40SW 10 MM 10MM MAG WAS WANTING TO TRY THEM IN 400GNR JUST WANDERING ABOUT SAFE LOADS. LARRY

In that ctg. teh slowest pistol powders are a start

WB
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Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 07:09 (3095 days ago) @ larry fouse

then it progresses to medium speed rifle powders like H332 and AA2350 etc. IMR 3031 and such may be too bulky but I bet they would be toward the slowest you could fit under a bullet. With such a light projectile I'd start with the med rate rifle powders at somewhere around 80% volume under the seated bullet. The 375 Win. data could be useful as you would be ensured that the .400 GNR pressures would be lower. I used AA1680 (a slow pistol bulky powder) to very good effect with a 215 gr. bullet in the .375 Win. My first try was well over 2000 fps for a cast FNGC.

Sean did the initial ground work and it is sound data I'm sure.

thanks for the info

larry fouse
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Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 17:57 (3095 days ago) @ WB

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looks like a page out of the old Herters catalog, course

jthomson
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 13:11 (3096 days ago) @ SMH

they would have been field tested by Jaques hahahaha

I once had a progressive loader

Jim Taylor
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 08:30 (3096 days ago) @ WB

RCBS
I quickly went back to my Rockchucker single stage press. Heck, I load ammo with the old Lyman 310 tong tool!
I manage to load quite a few thousand without a lot of foo far rah. Sure.. takes a bit of time. Thats ok. I got time.

I think I had the same thing Jim.

AkRay
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Wednesday, March 21, 2018, 16:29 (3094 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I should have asked for a Dillon press all those Christmases ago, but the cheap side of my nature got the best of me. I decided it would be less expensive to just add a Rockchucker !! to my RCBS press. I think I would have had a useful single stage and a progressive if I had.

I have a Lyman press with the

Larry Fry
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 08:47 (3096 days ago) @ WB

Plate on top that allows several different calibers to be loaded without having to pull the dies and put in the new caliber. I bought three extra plates and have mounted dies in them that are set for my GNR calibers. I keep them in a plastic sack with a desiccant sack in each that I change every six months or whenever the color turns pink. That way, all I have to do is take the current plate off and put on the one I want to reload. I ALWAYS do one round and mike it out to be sure everything is still well within the loading tolerance in my notebook for that caliber. I found this method works well for me, but do not know how it would do for others. I'll bet that there are a lot of shortcuts that the misfits that regularly read this forum use in reloading. I would really like to hear what others are doing to see if I could use their methods as well.

I agree with starting out with a single stage.

Grover Sr
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 08:50 (3096 days ago) @ WB

Back when I was shooting a lot I did get a Dillon 550 for loading 44 but ultimately sold it. I enjoy the process and steps involved with single stage presses.

Reloading press

Clint h
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 10:15 (3096 days ago) @ WB

I started out when i was 14 with a lee loader the one you use a mallet
For sizing and a dipper for a power measure
My brother got married when i was 16 and i inherited his rcbs jr press
After i was out of highschool and had a job i bought a rcbs rockchucker
When the dillion progressive press came out i saved my money and
Got one
Still use the jr and rockchucker every week it is just easier for me to load
Under a 100 rounds with the rcbs presses

What Scott says is true, but I take exception

jthomson
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 13:05 (3096 days ago) @ WB

to the value of Lee turret presses. Where I have many presses set up in my loading room, for straight walled pistol cases and I have most all, the drop in turret head holding the full set of 4 pistol dies, is a thing of beauty. good quality carbide dies make the reload easy on both the user and machine. The cast metal and plastic unit has held up for years, Mine has a powder hopper and disk change set-up that about any know charge can be metered. If i need to crimp I use the crimp die (no 4 die) I don't believe the window is large enough for many rifle rounds ( I do load 223 on it) it is mainly used for light duty reloading and the easy of switching cases

I have 2 dozen turrets, keep dies all set that way.

Darryl T.
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 14:16 (3096 days ago) @ jthomson

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Lyman Ideal 310 tool complete

Jim and Nancy Frost
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 13:09 (3096 days ago) @ WB

Hey WB, we came up with this set years ago when we bought a guys collection of gun stuff, even came with an old Lyman reloading book. Have no use for it so if you want it just email us,
frostfam4 at gmail.com

Hard to resist that, I'll PM you.

WB
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Monday, March 19, 2018, 13:34 (3096 days ago) @ Jim and Nancy Frost

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